Picture the Novelverse - Characters, Ships and More !
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Because Cross Cult gets to see the US covers first and then be able to decide how to make them better.
Cue the artistic analysis:
Let's take a closer look at Before Dishonor.
Looks like a Borg Cube in the background, Seven in front of it, the cube is visibal through her, which makes it look like rain in her face.
First, is that Seven? Where is the implant? This is pre-Destiny.
Is this the implant?
Now let's take a look at the German cover.
First, take a look at these green stripe thingies. The make it seem like there is movement going on. The cube is falling towards Earth. Then we also got a star, presumably the sun, in the background, already partly covered by the cube. I'm sure that can be interpreted as a metaphor for something, but I won't get into that.
Then we've got Seven above Earth and in front of the cube, looking at the cube in awe? Or anger... I don't know, I apparantly have problems reading Seven's emotions. It's probably shock. Then we have again stripes going from above Seven towards the cube. This again implies movement and makes it seem like there will be a confrontation between the cube and Seven and Earth will probably be the price to pay if Seven loses. This is also represented in the color schemes. The cube, followed by a trail of green, the borgiest of all colors, is heading toward Earth, which is featuring blue as a promintent color, as does Seven.
But now, let's look at the most important part:
Look at Seven.
It makes the whole thing more beautiful.
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I always liked the German covers, but I never noticed they're so meaningful!
Maybe we get a ROTF cover with Archer or T'Pol in the new uniform. Copyright isn't as stringent overseas.
As for the original cover of Before Dishonor - I really thought it was rain or tears!
Maybe we get a ROTF cover with Archer or T'Pol in the new uniform. Copyright isn't as stringent overseas.
As for the original cover of Before Dishonor - I really thought it was rain or tears!
I don't know if any of the stuff I wrote was actually the artist's intent, I am interpreted stuff here.
I wish we would, but so far Cross Cult only did covers featuring starships for their RotF books and I doubt that they'll change that. But I could be wrong. Hopefully.
Until today I thought the same.
That's the part you assign as a 2000-word essay to your students to figure it out for themselves.
Good point.Well hey, something doesn't have to be intentionally meaningful to be meaningful.
If I'll ever be a teacher (for whatever reason) I would totally do that. And all the chemistry students would be totally confused.That's the part you assign as a 2000-word essay to your students to figure it out for themselves.
German consumers care about quality. American consumers care about expediency.
Are US covers even rushed? I thought cover design started basically right from initial contracting, which would mean it's over the course of months.
Edit: Wait, that also implies that there have been times when German releases have been delayed because of cover design (as otherwise there would never be a consumer reaction in Germany to a choice between expediency and quality); when has that ever happened?
Edit: Wait, that also implies that there have been times when German releases have been delayed because of cover design (as otherwise there would never be a consumer reaction in Germany to a choice between expediency and quality); when has that ever happened?
^ I think the intent was to say Germans (and Europeans, by extensions) care about quality. US-Americans, then, would just be consumers who are happy with visual swill.
Or might be misinterpreting.
Indeed. Germans buy things that are well crafted and meant to last, even if the price for quality is higher. American consumers will just buy whatever. This is why Walmart failed in Germany based on its model of low cost, low quality products while it excels in America.
I don't think that ever happened. However I also don't recall any of Cross Cult's covers being met with huge criticism.
It still kind of feels like an insult to the Pocket cover artists, though. You're saying that they aren't actually putting in much effort because Americans don't care? Just because they aren't as well-liked doesn't mean that Pocket's cover artists are just slapping stuff together thoughtlessly.
It's never a good idea to make blanket generalizations about any nationality. Both America and Germany have plenty of history of internal division between different political and ideological factions, different economic classes, etc. Neither one has ever been a monolithic population. And I'm sure that applies to the tastes of their consumers as much as to anything else.
Plus in researching into it, Walmart's failure in Germany was more because of their fundamentally anti-competitive and market-disruptive practices that have wreaked so much havoc on small businesses and local markets here in the US not actually being legal in Germany, not because of a simple cultural clash. It wasn't merely that German people weren't using Walmart, it was that they were actually breaking the law.
(Not that what you said was an accurate description of Walmart's business model either; their business model is more about taking control of product chains so as to be able to sell existing products at levels that aren't financially viable for smaller businesses by taking advantage of monopsony pressure to force lower wholesale costs. They aren't about lower-quality goods in a general sense, that's a very small part of their business model that actually gives them too much ethical credit. They're much more about selling the same stuff as smaller shops at prices that smaller shops literally can't compete with because they get charged more than Walmart for the same goods.)
(Not that what you said was an accurate description of Walmart's business model either; their business model is more about taking control of product chains so as to be able to sell existing products at levels that aren't financially viable for smaller businesses by taking advantage of monopsony pressure to force lower wholesale costs. They aren't about lower-quality goods in a general sense, that's a very small part of their business model that actually gives them too much ethical credit. They're much more about selling the same stuff as smaller shops at prices that smaller shops literally can't compete with because they get charged more than Walmart for the same goods.)
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I was more saying that the Germans put in more of an effort rather than anyone in America is not putting in any effort.
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That's just a semantic difference that's still kind of insulting to Pocket Books' cover artists. I usually like the German covers better too, but come on, you could do a wall in one stroke with a brush that broad.
