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Since there's been nothing new to talk about concerning STIV since post 1, page 1 the fact that it made it to page 8 before derailing is pretty impressive.
Paramount going ahead with ST4 according to Engage
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Since there's been nothing new to talk about concerning STIV since post 1, page 1 the fact that it made it to page 8 before derailing is pretty impressive.
It was Col. Mustard in the library with the candlestick.
Colonel West, on the balcony, with the phaser
That has section 31 op written all over it.
Disagree, look at what Disney has done with Marvel, SW, Pixar... the sausage analogy quickly becomes rather obsolete...
So it's not just me, then...
Pretty much the perfect retconning.
If Paramount understood how to handle Star Trek, this sort of thing would already be in the works.
Among other things. I don't think the Kelvin films would be as resented in some cases if there was more Trek being produced.
The Kelvin films are kind of tasked with blending the high-mindedness of TV Trek with the forcefulness of movie Trek. So far l think they've done okay handling that (though others would disagree, I know).
I think you're right, though, and I wish Paramount and CBS would either patch in their differences or have the rights given to one or the other so we could stop squabbling over universes.
I do as well. I think that there is so much squabbling over rights that a lot of money is being lost. Also there seems to be an adverse attitude towards risk, which is frustrating to me as someone who wants to see more than the current output, as well as ways to introduce my (younger) children to Star Trek.
But, that's me, and I've blathered on about this numerous times.
I think this is the big thing. Disney gets that Star Wars is something parents want to share with and pass down to their children.
Many Star Trek fans feel the same way but CBS and Paramount don't seem to realize it.
My kids got into Star Wars because they had lightsabers and X-Wings. My kids got into Star Trek because I gave them hand me down toys.
Get with it, Paramount.
Given the tepid success of Beyond this film will probably fail, Discovery will bust and doom doom doom will be upon is.
'And so passes Trek heir to Roddenberry"
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'And so passes Trek heir to Roddenberry"
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The optimism is overwhelming.
As many have pointed out, Star Trek started out on the TV scene and will likely benefit from the more serialized storytelling that focuses on longer character arcs than a two hour film can provide. So, there is the potential, depending on characters that DSC could grow and develop in a lot of different ways.
As many have pointed out, Star Trek started out on the TV scene and will likely benefit from the more serialized storytelling that focuses on longer character arcs than a two hour film can provide. So, there is the potential, depending on characters that DSC could grow and develop in a lot of different ways.
That's an easy realization to come to, when your only concern is selling product.
Or ensuring the longevity and profitability of your product?
Or they realize that Star Trek just doesn't have the same cool factor and popularity as Star Wars does and that the kids in school are talking about Star Wars and not Star Trek. The kids that do want to talk about Star Trek are outcasts.
I think that's not the problem though, I think part of the problem is that Paramount has tried to make Star Trek into something cool and more mainstream but in doing so has taken away some of it's magic.
Who determines whats 'magic' about it?
Within a day of release I had two opinions thrown at me: a 14 year old who was blown away and wanted to be as heroic as the people he'd just seen (and was incredibly disappointed to have no Trek merch in the nearby Forbidden Planet). On the opposite side, an overly critical 30+ year old who couldn't even explain why he hated it other than "in my day...."
Magic is, in large part, determined by the audience. The down side to Trek fandom is that a large chunk of that vocal audience on the all important (these days) social media channels are absolutely toxic, and most of them can't even tell you why.
