Humans do not run Starfleet or the Federation alone, did Bashir forgot that?
In the Pale Moonlight....
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The Bashir character makes DS9 painful to watch, and when re-watching I usually skip over scenes where he is prominently featured. I will skip whole episodes where the character is the focus. In another thread I'm trashing the Kes character left and right, and I've been accused of "hating" the character. Well, I don't hate the character of Kes. I don't fast forward her scenes or skip episodes in which she's featured. I do think the character didn't pan out and they were right to add a better cast member, but I don't hate Kes.
In contrast, I DO hate that doctor, and his smug and condescending manner, The actor is both very hard to look at and very hard to listen to, with that ridiculous accent. I hate how the producers continuously ret-conned the character to make him more interesting when he in fact was entirely superfluous. The scenes of him in bed with Ezri turn my stomach if I forget to fast forward in time. Everything out of this useless character's mouth is self-righteous babble, and I wish they had killed him off.
So, what the hell do i care about his speech? Anyone including him will fight tooth and nail to survive. Otherwise WE DIE. Well maybe he would lay down and die instead of protecting himself and the people around him, and I say GOOD.
"KahMANdah, you better not do this, and KahMANdah, you better not do that, or I shall inform STAHfleet medical on you, KahMANdah."
"MIY-les, I'm better than you in every way. You can't beat me at darts. KAY-ko is coming home MIY-les, so you better pick up the toys."
I wish I was there, and armed with a phaser.
Wow that's some hate lol I like the actor, I believe his accent is no more ridiculous than Colm Meany, who is Irish, Avery Brooks who is American or any character on the show. Siddig was raised in the UK so having an English accent came with the character. I believe the Doctor started off as a young naïve Lieutenant, perhaps he was meant to be the moral voice of the show.
Bashir's idealism and moral purity make him my favorite DS9 character.
Huh? Siddig is pretty easy on the eyes. And what ridiculous about his accent? Sounds British. No worse than Stewart, Reed or any other Brit actor in the franchise.
To each his own then. I find him thoroughly unattractive, with that disgusting 5 O'clock shadow and that irritating accent. It sounds nothing like Stewart or Sirtis. "KahMANdah". The absolute worst character in the franchise. And I really mean it. They could have cast a better actor and wrote a better character. Phlox was so good on Enterprise, as was the doctor on Voyager. This one played darts. Oh and was condescending to everyone that he didn't want to screw, even though he was the one born "slow". "KahMANdah" Nauseating.
Moral purity? Depends on what you consider moral. Every word out of his pie hole irritates me. Besides, what's your point? Kes is someone's favorite, but she still sucks. Hell, Reg Barclay is probably someone's favorite. "KahMANdah" yeah that's some good acting/
Do you know the difference between a fake accent and a real one? British or not, "Siddig" hammed up the accent. "KahMANdah" Colm just spoke the way he speaks. And that pig was hardly moral.
As @Nyotarules mentioned, Siddig was pretty much raised in England.His education is at British schools. His mother is British. His uncle is Malcolm McDowell. I think his natural accent is British. He used an RP accent as Bashir. I think Stewart used it too. "KahMANdah"? Is that worse that Stewart's "Kamandah Rikah", "Numbah One" or "The line must be drawn Heah!" @Nyotarules might know better, since she's also British, IIRC.
It is Siddig's natural accent. As anyone who's met him at a con can attest.
Which is probably why it sounds nothing like Sirtis's. In the first few seasons of TNG, she was affecting an accent. She took a page out of Doohans book, and imitated someone she knew. The end result was probably equally authentic.
There's no need for scare quotes.
As in literally. The use of scare quotes in this context makes absolutely no sense.
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That bad?
Borgas Frat!
I don't know what scare quotes are. Are you calling him by his last name Siddig or his first name Siddig? I don't know. I know it's his natural accent. I still find it irritating.. "KahMANDah" Marina is British. I intensely dislike the doctor character, and how he was interpreted by a second rate actor.
You're free to enjoy him, however.
I love that speech. I always took it as DS9's mission statement, albeit delivered well into the series' run.
Google is hard.
And since you brought it up - if you weren't attempting to use scare quotes, what were you doing?
Why does it matter? Both ways are applicable.
And neither necessitates scare quotes.
*looks a few posts up*
No you didn't.
You have probably written that word more times in the last fortnight, than DS9 scriptwriters did during the shows entire run. I find that kind of spammy and irritating.
Come to think of it, I'm generally irritable when faced with repetitive mockery of a real person's looks and accent. We all have our little flaws.
I watched Quark's 'root beer' speech the other day.
Rather than disagreeing-but-seeing-his-point, all I could think was: 'somebody has never seen what happens when an Andorian, a Tellarite, and a Vulcan are in the same room.'
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I like Bashir. I like Siddig. I do think however the character did suffer from that 'look-before-you-leap' augment episode. It was a good episode, well acted but the Bashir character emerges from that a dull and morose figure and with a very unconvincing Spock-esque air about him. He's often given a calculation by the writers to second guess and the idea that Bashir had been "humoring" O'Brien and not really playing him at darts is underwhelming.
As for that speech, I did think it was overacted and the sarcasm was a little too belaboured. It seemed to me Siddig pumped himself up a bit too much before the scene for it to flow organically. That was my impression watching it.
I've seen Siddig in numerous stuff since DS9 and he's a good, even an underrated actor.
And I like the wide-eyed "KahMANDah" inflection.
As for that speech, I did think it was overacted and the sarcasm was a little too belaboured. It seemed to me Siddig pumped himself up a bit too much before the scene for it to flow organically. That was my impression watching it.
I've seen Siddig in numerous stuff since DS9 and he's a good, even an underrated actor.
And I like the wide-eyed "KahMANDah" inflection.
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