Maybe the people in charge of the show thought the casual viewer wouldn't get she was Borg if she wasn't in the alcove. Good grief, can you imagine having to sleep standing up, in high heels no less?
Voyager, sorry.... what ? moments.
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But even in season 7 she is still using the alcove for regeneration. So I guess that her human metabolism isn't fully back up and running.
My biggest WTF is straight off the bat:
The Kazon.
So... I'm expected to believe in the first half of Caretaker, they're scruffy, beaten down society, living on a desert planet with no water (No food?) but don't worry, they have a fleet of Starships that are more than a match for a brand new Federation Vessel, but instead of you know, going to find a new planet, they sat on the surface of a desert planet moping about how the Ocampa has all the water UNDERGROUND BEHIND A MASSIVE SHIELD.
The Kazon.
So... I'm expected to believe in the first half of Caretaker, they're scruffy, beaten down society, living on a desert planet with no water (No food?) but don't worry, they have a fleet of Starships that are more than a match for a brand new Federation Vessel, but instead of you know, going to find a new planet, they sat on the surface of a desert planet moping about how the Ocampa has all the water UNDERGROUND BEHIND A MASSIVE SHIELD.
I'm no doctor so I don't know...but I just assumed that it was partially working...enough that she could eat but not enough that she stil needed to use the alcove. Also that the alcove was serving to maintain/repair her borg implants
The only thing that put me off was Tom Paris working with Doc instead of Kes.
1 - The Doctor teaching to Seven, social rituals and etiquette lessons which are quite ironic when we know how much he is disanchanted cynical and surly since the beginning and still is can be in spite of obvious efforts (thanks to Kes) ...
I guess that, blind leading the blind.
2 - If Janeway and her crew had not stopped so often to observe anomalies & other strangenesses but to face some enemies whose the knew the dangerousness, like Borgs for ex, maybe they would have reduced the time of their journey of 2 or 3 years.
3 - Janeway naming Neelix Ambassador to the Delta Quadrant, even if this title was unofficial... Of course he knew a lot about species in DQ and had a certain flair for diplomacy but come on!
4 - the presence of 3 Borg children (for me Icheb wasn't a child anymore so I didn't count him among them) on board and for whom the dialogues were more than limited, especially the twins.
5 - Why did we see Enseign Wildman spending so little time with her daughter? I am well conscious that she worked and that she certainly had to make some double shifts in case of necessity but hey, Neelix and Seven seemed to spend more time with the little girl than her own mother!
I guess that, blind leading the blind.
2 - If Janeway and her crew had not stopped so often to observe anomalies & other strangenesses but to face some enemies whose the knew the dangerousness, like Borgs for ex, maybe they would have reduced the time of their journey of 2 or 3 years.
3 - Janeway naming Neelix Ambassador to the Delta Quadrant, even if this title was unofficial... Of course he knew a lot about species in DQ and had a certain flair for diplomacy but come on!
4 - the presence of 3 Borg children (for me Icheb wasn't a child anymore so I didn't count him among them) on board and for whom the dialogues were more than limited, especially the twins.
5 - Why did we see Enseign Wildman spending so little time with her daughter? I am well conscious that she worked and that she certainly had to make some double shifts in case of necessity but hey, Neelix and Seven seemed to spend more time with the little girl than her own mother!
This would have made more sense (for a line). I concluded that ended up being their choice.
Still, I don't know how they[borg crew] got the special snowflake treatment of being irreversible and yet Star fleet officers can but whatever.
Ahh, right. Jeri Taylor responded, "To remind the audience they were borg." yes, hard to forget it when every other episode is Borg based, Jeri (taylor).
Are you talking about Seven/Icheb/kids keeping their borg implants and Janeway, B'Elanna and Tuvok not?This would have made more sense (for a line). I concluded that ended up being their choice.
Still, I don't know how they[borg crew] got the special snowflake treatment of being irreversible and yet Star fleet officers can but whatever.
In that case I always thought it was because Seven and kids got their implants as young children so their body grew and developed with those implants and became dependant on them. The rest were assimilated as fully grown adults so they could be all removed (well mostly removed)
And Seven was probably more dependent than the kids because she had them so much longer. When Icheb donated his cortical implant when hers was failing, he was able to survive without it.
They mentioned that in the episode...
ICHEB: You took these scans of me when I left the Collective. By your own estimation I emerged from my maturation chamber before I was fully assimilated. As a result my physiology is less dependent on my implants.
EMH: They still regulate many of your vital functions.
ICHEB: What about my age? I'm younger, so it should be easier for my body to adapt to the loss
That was briefly addressed not long after Seven came on board wasn't it ? She basically had the exact same complaint and Janeway's response was along the lines of
"we're explorers, it would make for a boring journey otherwise"
Ah yes, I have forgotten that Capitain Janeway liked living dangerously! But, I'm pretty sure that if she had spared to her crew to live some frights, this latter would have been grateful to her, especially Lt Casey!
No. just no.
Actually I find the scene in Caretaker where Kes had to convince Janeway to let them stay on a WTF moment. Seriously , Janeway was gonna let the opportunity of having a local living aboard pass by? Voyager wouldn't have made it to Nekrit Expanse without him.
I agree it was an missing opportunity. However, dialogue suggests Samantha Wildman was very present in Naomi and Neelix's lives. It was just offscreen.
"They are following their instincts. I suggest we let them."
Tuvok's line in "Blood Fever."
No, just no. If, while the Maquis that Tuvok was training decided to follow his instincts and attempt to punch Tuvok because he was pushing them around, would that be acceptable? What about Suder and his instincts? The Hirogen? And on and on.
How about, you have weapons that can stun, so why not use them?
Tuvok's line in "Blood Fever."
No, just no. If, while the Maquis that Tuvok was training decided to follow his instincts and attempt to punch Tuvok because he was pushing them around, would that be acceptable? What about Suder and his instincts? The Hirogen? And on and on.
How about, you have weapons that can stun, so why not use them?
I watched Dark Frontier last night. After Seven gave herself up to The Borg, The Borg Queen explained that they had failed to assimilate humanity before and they would fail again without Seven's help.
Well...... couldn't she have sent more than one cube to do the job ? They were in a system of space that contained over 9 trillion Borg Drones and countless thousands of Cubes.
Fire all of them through a Transwarp conduit and Earth has no chance.
Well...... couldn't she have sent more than one cube to do the job ? They were in a system of space that contained over 9 trillion Borg Drones and countless thousands of Cubes.
Fire all of them through a Transwarp conduit and Earth has no chance.
Did he mention whether or not his son was adopted?
There are a lot of inconsistencies in science fiction, because it is 'science fiction'. It's written by writers, and hopefully (in this day and age) reviewed by some technical consultant. But how would a writer or a technical consultant or the you of today know how technology will work 300 years from now?
So the "inconsistencies" are plentiful. A transporter should be able to make a flesh and blood human being out of thin air just as easily as it transports someone. In order to transport someone the person wold have to be "digitized", the information would have to be stored somewhere, the matter turned into energy, and then the energy reconstituted into matter from the information that was stored.
So the recipe for creating a person is information, and energy. Information can be stored, and energy is abundant. The holodecks should be able to create real objects and real people.
But maybe transporters don't work that way. Maybe the digitized "information" is somehow temporal, and can only exist in one place in the universe at a time. The information ceases to exist once the object materializes.
So the "huh" moments are on us, then aren't they? We have no idea how this complex technology actually works, no more than someone from 200 years ago could understand how a computer or the internet works today. In fact, by the science of their day, a computer "shouldn't" work, so every bit of it would be a wtf moment to them.
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If I had a body like that, it's what I'd wear. Since I'm male, it's what I like to see. So what's the problem?
I'm sick to death of this Seven of Nine thing. The show needed a stronger character. It's not like they poured some bimbo into a skin tight suit to act as eye candy in every scene. The character filled a dramatic, scientific, and technical niche on almost every story, provided dozens of great plot lines, and was beautifully acted. She also provided light comedy, and early on acted as a antagonist. The show was limp before she was added. That is not to say this was some deficiency in the other actors and Jeri Ryan had to rush in to save the day. The chemistry of the major players needed to be tweaked, and this character successfully did so.
The same argument works for Worf's addition to DS9. The chemistry was all wrong. Many of the parts were unintentionally weak and infinitely predictable and tiresome after the first couple of seasons. Odo pretended to like his crewmates, but looked down on them with every word spoken. Ho hum. The Doctor character was pathetic (the actor and the part, and the combination of the actor and the part). I like Miles O'Brien, but that character isn't strong enough to carry a lead. Everything worked better with the addition of Worf. Once the chemistry was fixed, all the other characters had room to grow.
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