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Spoilers Supergirl - Season 2

As to rarity - Supergirl claimed they were far beyond the technology of Krypton. Given Krypton's status as a long lived colonial power with an extremely scientific culture, I find it hard to believe there's that many super-advanced (by kryptonian standards) weapons floating around this seemingly fairly small alien population on this backwater planet that doesn't even have space travel yet.

I assume Krypton didn't have superweapons because it was a mostly peaceful culture. So its weapons technology would have been a lot less "advanced" than that of more warlike cultures that put more effort into weapons development.

And I don't think "colonial power" is a workable description here. If Kryptonians had colonies, then a lot more than two of them would've survived when their home planet blew up. They were a starfaring power, yes, but for whatever reason, it seems they only went to other planets to visit, not to stay.
 
I suppose, though personally I'd prefer a villain who actually makes more sense.

As to rarity - Supergirl claimed they were far beyond the technology of Krypton. Given Krypton's status as a long lived colonial power with an extremely scientific culture, I find it hard to believe there's that many super-advanced (by kryptonian standards) weapons floating around this seemingly fairly small alien population on this backwater planet that doesn't even have space travel yet.

Why is so hard to believe that other planets would have more advanced technology that Krypton?

After all it's not like the United Federation Of Planets has the most advanced technology in the universe.
 
Where else but a backwater planet would you deal illegal super-advanced weapons. Earth is the planet of choice for such things. Only a couple powered individuals and no global advanced detection or police force to worry about.

True from the aliens' POV. From the Cadmus side, there's no better way to kick human fear of aliens into overdrive (as proven by human complaints in the episode) than to subject them to weapons impossible to counter.

Why is so hard to believe that other planets would have more advanced technology that Krypton?

After all it's not like the United Federation Of Planets has the most advanced technology in the universe.

Well put--no one ever said Krypton was the pinnacle of technological development in the universe. In the bigger picture, Kryptonian's one edge are the physical effects of a sun not native to their system.
 
I'm interested to see where James' venture into vigilantism goes, and am interested to see how far the producers push the Batman analogue with him

Well they can't push it farther than Arrow, that's for sure ;)

Also, we know from the Master Jailer episode that there already are masked vigilantes on Supergirl's Earth (though they are in that other city), I wonder if someone will bring them up at some point.
 
I enjoyed this one.
The stuff with Mon-El at Catco was a lot of fun.
We got some nice set up here for both James' and Alex's future stories.
There was also some nice movement and reveals in the Cadmus story here, and the stuff with the gang gave us some nice action scenes. Since I know where they are going with James I couldn't help but laugh when he grabbed the trash can lid during his fight with the gang members.
Lena and Winn working together to help stop the gang's attack was a cool moment. I'm liking what they are doing with Lena, and her relationship with Kara.
As soon as Dr Luthor mentioned having a son and daughter and refused to be involved with the attack on Lena's event I was wondering if she was Lex and Lena's mother. I'm glad they gave us the reveal there at the end, so I don't have to keep wondering.
 
Since I know where they are going with James I couldn't help but laugh when he grabbed the trash can lid during his fight with the gang members.

I don't think it was a trash can lid -- more of a rectangular steel plate. Maybe some kind of grate cover or something.


Lena and Winn working together to help stop the gang's attack was a cool moment.

Yeah, a nice geek-cute. I think Lena may have made a second friend in National City.
 
I've always had the impression that amongst the DC's cosmic civilisations, Krypton was always this oddball isolationist planet full of scientists, artists and stuffy philosophers. Maybe once, thousands of years ago they were a formidable military or even colonial power but those times have long since faded by the time Krypton blew up.

Also, just because Krypton was super advanced doesn't necessarily mean they had super advanced weapons. They were after all supposed to be an enlightened society. Hence people like Zod and Jax Ur being seen as backwards zealots and criminals.

As for other civilisations: well there's certainly no shortage of aliens races with exotic and nasty weaponry. Thanagarians, Tamaranians, Gordanians, Coluans, to say nothing of New Genesis and Apokolips. And then of course there's Oa...
 
As for other civilisations: well there's certainly no shortage of aliens races with exotic and nasty weaponry. Thanagarians, Tamaranians, Gordanians, Coluans, to say nothing of New Genesis and Apokolips. And then of course there's Oa...

Let's see, we know that Coluans exist in the show's universe, and Thanagarians exist a few parallel universes away in Earth-1's reality. No word on the others yet, though. Trombusans were mentioned as advanced weapons makers in the Master Jailer episode. We know War World exists, as does Draaga's species, whatever it is. Also Valeron (Vartox's world), Almerac (Maxima's world), and the K'hund, and of course White Martians, though they seem to rely more on their powers than on weapons.
 
ISince I know where they are going with James I couldn't help but laugh when he grabbed the trash can lid during his fight with the gang members..

The second time in as many weeks that the series swipes from a Captain America movie; in The First Avenger, skinny Steve grabbed a trashcan lid in his fight with the movie theater thug--a nod to his future life as a hero. Same as James with the metal plate, pre-Guardian.
 
Is anyone irritated whenever that Cadmus avatar appears on a screen?
Always makes me think of Gideon over on Flash/Legends.
Is it the same CGI model?
 
I don't have much depth about the White Martians. In the comics, wherever the heck are they prior to showing up to cause trouble for Martian Manhunter on modern day Earth? I assume DC continuity acknowledges remote exploration of Mars, yes?
 
I don't have much depth about the White Martians. In the comics, wherever the heck are they prior to showing up to cause trouble for Martian Manhunter on modern day Earth? I assume DC continuity acknowledges remote exploration of Mars, yes?

I don't know about the comics, but didn't J'onn say last season that the White Martians came from underground? So I guess they're sort of like the Mole People of Mars. Which may be why they're albinos. (And which also sounds like the name of a Flash Gordon serial.)
 
Morlocks.

Genetically the same species, or regionally form the same geography, depending on which canon you worship.

John has been on Earth for 300 years?

If he felt it wise to hide the dangerous treasures of Mars... Are the White Martians thriving on Mars, or are they dead too?

If the White Martians are also almost extinct... Either John scorched the Mars behind him as he was leaving, or probably the reason for the white green clash was because some environmental issue underground that forced the Whites to the Surface.

If that's the case, then by the time of their surface invasion White breeding pairs might have already been at too lower numbers to keep the race sustainable.

The first diplomatic question would be "How about a mixer, followed by an orgy?" which if answered by anything less than sneers might have avoided war and genocide.

The White Martians must be manipulating human tech so that we see nothing on mars, if they are thriving on the Surface of Mars.
 
I've not watched any of the season yet. Watched the first episode of it last night.

:sniff:

They got Superman right.

I said last season that they got Superman more right in the over-lit shots and text messages we saw of him in the First Season than Snyder's gotten right of him in two movies. Now seeing him realized in this more optimistic DC universe? It's... It's amazing.

"We're moving back to Gotham,"

Dude, unless Gotham is *very* different in this universe I don't think what's going on there is better than some drone attack.
 
I'm hoping this universe's Gotham is like the one in the Adam West series.

I guess given the "lighter" atmosphere this series has presented, perhaps. But I think going all the way to Adam West is pretty damn far even for how light this series is. It's possible for Gotham to be the gothic, crime-ridden hell-hole that we know it to be in the comics while still looking like a "regular" city without going all the way to the Burton version or even the "Gotham" series version.

I think the version seen in the Nolan movies is more accurate where just felt like any other large city, it just happened to have a fairly high crime rate but otherwise looked like and felt like any other city.

But a drone strike in National City certainly shouldn't be any worse than anything The Joker, The Penguin, The Riddler, Poison Ivy and so forth are doing in Gotham. ;)
 
I guess given the "lighter" atmosphere this series has presented, perhaps. But I think going all the way to Adam West is pretty damn far even for how light this series is.

My statement was not meant to be taken so literally.


It's possible for Gotham to be the gothic, crime-ridden hell-hole that we know it to be in the comics while still looking like a "regular" city without going all the way to the Burton version or even the "Gotham" series version.

That's just it, though -- Gotham didn't become a "gothic, crime-ridden hell-hole" until Frank Miller and Tim Burton came along. For the majority of its history, it was just a city like any other. (In fact, it was actually called New York in one of the very early issues.) It had as much crime and corruption as would be typical for any vigilante-based adventure story, but it wasn't portrayed as fundamentally any more corrupt or awful than any other city in DC Comics. (Heck, people say Metropolis is the bright and happy one, but in the early Superman comics and radio series, it was a hotbed of political corruption and racketeering.) And in the Silver Age, when comics lightened up under the Comics Code, Gotham City was no less appealing a place to live than Metropolis or Star City or Central City or any of the others. The darkening of Gotham began with The Dark Knight Returns, which posited a dystopian future where things had become utterly horrible, far worse than in the present. Then Miller did Batman: Year One and established the idea that Gotham needed a vigilante in the first place because the law was too corrupt to do its job -- but the implicit idea was that it was only that bad in the past because there was no Batman or Commissioner Gordon yet. However, later Batman writers neglected the "period" settings of both and portrayed present-day Gotham as a mix of both, a dystopian hellpit so corrupt and decayed that you wondered why anyone even lived there. And it got pretty ludicrous how far they took it.

So I don't feel that Batman stories need a Gotham that's constantly, incurably corrupt. As an incentive for Batman to have started in the past, okay, that makes sense, but if it just stays so awful despite all Batman's efforts, then doesn't that make him a failure?

Also, when did it stop being Gotham City and just become Gotham? Nobody ever seems to use the full name anymore.


There are other superheroes/vigilantes/mystery men in the Supergirl/Superman universe?

Superman's been active for over a dozen years. I'd be surprised if Kara Danvers and James Olsen were the only two people inspired to follow his example. So yeah, there could be other crimefighters we haven't met yet. The longer the series goes on, the more likely it is that we'll meet some of them.
 
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