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Who is going to win this election in November?

Who will win the general presidential election?

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 37 22.7%
  • Hillary Clinton

    Votes: 126 77.3%

  • Total voters
    163
  • Poll closed .
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I'll see the highlights. Watching the whole thing would put me at risk for an aneurysm.

That man's bullshit quotient is off the scale. And unfortunately, the fact that he wouldn't shut up with his endless stream of nonsense probably scored him some points with people who like "strongmen."
Oh, there were definitely moments when you heard dumbasses in the audience going "YEAH!" when Trump laid out such skilled verbal ripostes like "she's bad," and "she makes bad decisions."
One of my favorite moments was at the very end, where in one breath Trump both stated that she was bad for the country, but that he would absolutely support her if she won the election. I doubt anyone with a functioning brain cell left in their body believed that one.
 
Trump blew it. Clinton gave sensible, thoughtful answers, smiled right through his childish interruptions, wasn't afraid to call him out for his lies, and repeatedly baited him into making an ass of himself. It was a thing of beauty.

Now we can only hope that fifty plus percent of the electorate saw it that way.
 
Random thoughts the morning after:

What I don't understand is the comments I see elsewhere online about how Clinton seemed too polished. Isn't a world leader supposed to be thoughtful, knowledgeable, well-prepared, and articulate?!

Could you imagine being an interpreter (sign or any other language) for Trump when he goes off on his barely coherent rambles?
 
Random thoughts the morning after:

What I don't understand is the comments I see elsewhere online about how Clinton seemed too polished. Isn't a world leader supposed to be thoughtful, knowledgeable, well-prepared, and articulate?!

Could you imagine being an interpreter (sign or any other language) for Trump when he goes off on his barely coherent rambles?

Chuck Todd also described her as "over-prepared," implying that this is a bad thing.

I suspect this is another example of gender-based double-standards. Clinton is either unprepared or too prepared, too rough or too polished, too silly or too grim. She will never be good enough in any way because she's missing the one thing that would make critics take her seriously.

Trump, meanwhile, is having people say he won the debate because hey, he didn't literally shit on the debate floor. He even praised himself for not bringing up Bill Clinton's infidelities.
 
The sad thing is that everyone has already made up their minds; the nut jobs will vote for Trump, regardless of what he says ( My mind is made up! Don't try to confuse me with facts!). Nothing either says or does now makes the slightest bit of difference. I couldn't watch much of the debate; it's too damn depressing.
 
There are still swing voters, and enough of them to tip the election one way or the other. Those are the people the debates can still reach. The deplorables are a lost cause, but that would be true no matter who the Dems were running.
 
There are still swing voters, and enough of them to tip the election one way or the other. Those are the people the debates can still reach. The deplorables are a lost cause, but that would be true no matter who the Dems were running.

There are many people who will vote for trump for the sole reason that he isn't hilary.
 
Every election cycle, I wonder why and how there are still "undecideds" into September/October. Especially this year. I read an article this morning where a bunch of undecideds talked about the debate, and a few of them were still undecided.

I wonder if that's just because there are people who aren't politically inclined/aware, or just too busy to pay much attention, or a failure in the system to properly educate people.
 
Every election cycle, I wonder why and how there are still "undecideds" into September/October. Especially this year. I read an article this morning where a bunch of undecideds talked about the debate, and a few of them were still undecided.

I wonder if that's just because there are people who aren't politically inclined/aware, or just too busy to pay much attention, or a failure in the system to properly educate people.

Or maybe some people think that as long as they are undecided they have the country's fate in their hands.
 
What I don't understand is the comments I see elsewhere online about how Clinton seemed too polished. Isn't a world leader supposed to be thoughtful, knowledgeable, well-prepared, and articulate?!

Polished can be a slightly nicer-sounding term for platitudinous rather than indicating being knowledgeable or articulate.

Every election cycle, I wonder why and how there are still "undecideds" into September/October.

It's possible, and shouldn't be too hard to fathom, that some people agree with one of the candidates on some issues but the other on other issues or believe that neither candidate is authentic. It's true, though, that this time there's a pretty big difference in the attitudes and visions of the major candidates.
 
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Random thoughts the morning after:

What I don't understand is the comments I see elsewhere online about how Clinton seemed too polished. Isn't a world leader supposed to be thoughtful, knowledgeable, well-prepared, and articulate?!
In a normal election year yes. But when you're a voter who feels he had been lied to every election cycle by career politicians you can't help but not be ethused by another slick talking, smooth candidate.
 
Every election cycle, I wonder why and how there are still "undecideds" into September/October. Especially this year. I read an article this morning where a bunch of undecideds talked about the debate, and a few of them were still undecided.

I wonder if that's just because there are people who aren't politically inclined/aware, or just too busy to pay much attention, or a failure in the system to properly educate people.
We don't live in their shoes so we can only guess.

I don't think it has anything to do with education. Both of these candidates have high unfavorables so trusting what they say is hard for many. Believing that this will be THE candidate that finally will do what he or she says is most likely the issue.
 
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