• Welcome! The TrekBBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans.
    If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

*Potential Spoilers* What will the Alternate Enterprise-A look like

I hadn't noticed the extra phaser banks on the saucer. That seems to confirm that there's no way that the new Lin design from the beginning of Beyond could be the same as the repaired Enterprise from the very end of Into Darkness (not that I thought it was). Again (assuming these photos are accurate), that would imply that sometime during their mission, in between those two movies, they would've refitted the saucer with double the phaser banks, enlarged and added windows around the rim, and completely replaced the neck, pylons, and nacelles.

With the ease that the designers can tweak these models now, it seems like we have to accept that major reconfigurations like these are fairly standard.
I mentioned this before in one of these threads, but I think we're supposed to pretend that the Beyond Enterprise is how the ship looked at the end of STID when she headed out on the five-year mission.

Similar to how in Search for Spock she had five times as much battle-damage as actually suffered in TWOK.
 
The neck on the ship in the film was not perpendicular to the saucer like in the concept art, and near as I can tell, neither is the aft end of the ship.
I'll have to watch it again to see then, as I remember thinking it looked great when I saw it. But it was quite dark, and we only saw it for a few seconds.

That profile view reminds me of (of all things) the head of the Deacon from Prometheus, the way it all comes down to a point at the end:

cqw9JBp.jpg
 
Swapping phaser turrets (which in this universe are far more modular) literally transplanting nacelle+pylon pairs would be pretty damn easy if you literally have one super ship of the line that gets all the toys and everyone works on it.

Don't forget, the NX-01 was built in less than 2 years (given the dates in First Flight) because Starfleet went all out on just one ship.
 
I hadn't noticed the extra phaser banks on the saucer. That seems to confirm that there's no way that the new Lin design from the beginning of Beyond could be the same as the repaired Enterprise from the very end of Into Darkness (not that I thought it was).

I think, in universe, it is supposed to be the same. You just have to squint. Much like the change in bridges on the Bird of Prey between III and IV.

Don't forget, the NX-01 was built in less than 2 years (given the dates in First Flight) because Starfleet went all out on just one ship.

I think much like the fan explanation for the Vengeance, we can work under the assumption that the design and construction process for the NX-01 was well under way before the engines were actually ready. Much longer than two years.
 
Nope.

Archer says after warp 3 was achieved by the NX-Delta in 2145, they laid the keel for Enterprise 5 years later, in 2150.

She was built from the ground up in less than 18 months.
 
Nope.

Archer says after warp 3 was achieved by the NX-Delta in 2145, they laid the keel for Enterprise 5 years later, in 2150.

She was built from the ground up in less than 18 months.

Maybe they were incredibly-bureaucratic.

"We have the NX-Delta, the first Warp 3 ship. And now we have the NX-Enterprise, the first Warp 5 ship! Let's build the NX-Franklin, the first Warp 4 ship."

"But sir, the Enterprise can easily do Warp 4."

"I SAID BUILD THE FIRST WARP 4 SHIP, DAMMIT. NO MORE, NO LESS!"
 
Archer: "It's called a warp 5 engine"
Tucker: "On paper"

Of course they did get it to warp 5, even if it was a little shaky.
 
The NX-"Gamma" was likely the simulated model the Vulcans forced them to use while proving the warp 3 breakthrough was safe,

Starfleet was building the Intrepid and Neptune classes around the Warp 2 engine of the NX-Alpha during that, so they weren't sitting around waiting for the Vulcans approval for everything.

The NX class was probably the end goal design when the program started in 2143. So they could have been drawing designs left, right and center for each incriment.

NX-Alpha - Warp 2
NX-Beta - Warp 3
Intrepid+Neptune - Built around W2E
NX-"Gamma" - Warp 3/4 simulator
NX-Delta - Warp 3
"Franklin" class - Warp 4
NX-Class - Warp 5/W5E
 
Last edited:
She was built from the ground up in less than 18 months.

That's just plain stupid. We don't have to buy non-sense just because it is a make believe universe. The Galaxy-class took twenty years from planning to launch (according to the TNG technical manual).

Heck, it took five years between the introduction of the Space Shuttle Enterprise, and the launch of Columbia.
 
The resources of an entire planet, with a design and engine ready to go, thousands of engineers and workers, all dedicated to building *one thing* smaller than several skyscrapers on this planet right now.

And have you seen how fast Dubai can build those?

By that logic, Yorktown should have taken half a thousand years to build.
 
Does anyone have an "official" render of the new ship out there yet? I remember previous versions started popping up pretty quick not long after the earlier movies came out.
 
Does anyone have an "official" render of the new ship out there yet? I remember previous versions started popping up pretty quick not long after the earlier movies came out.

We'll have one after Oct 4th when the movie is released on digital download. Just a little over a week.
 
If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Sign up / Register


Back
Top