Captain Pike's weird comment about "women on the bridge"
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Never saw any problems with an organisation being called both UESPA and Starfleet. UESPA was probably the replacement for NASA and still exists within the Federation, where largely human crewed starship exploration is concerned.
Or a race sometimes called Vulcanians. Humans go by a few names too.
Or a race sometimes called Vulcanians. Humans go by a few names too.
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Yes, they edited that part out.
And used "Polarized Hull Plating" instead of shields. And called their intellectual woman in a catsuit "T'Pol" instead of "Seven of Nine."
And used "Polarized Hull Plating" instead of shields. And called their intellectual woman in a catsuit "T'Pol" instead of "Seven of Nine."
Yeah; "polarized hull plating" is pure nonsense.
And "photonic torpedoes"...someday they won't be as icky.
Now if one wants to rationalize an in-universe explanation for the sexism sometimes in display on TOS rather than handwave it away...consider that perhaps social issues didn't always progress linearly. With humans moving out into the stars and establishing colonies, it's possible that traditional gender roles made a comeback for a time out on the frontier.
Now if one wants to rationalize an in-universe explanation for the sexism sometimes in display on TOS rather than handwave it away...consider that perhaps social issues didn't always progress linearly. With humans moving out into the stars and establishing colonies, it's possible that traditional gender roles made a comeback for a time out on the frontier.
It's also entirely possible that 'traditional gender roles' as they are usually called didn't "make a comeback" across the Federation, but only on the frontier, as the frontier, and the colonies it was comprised of at the time, was about world-building, with women taking on the traditional roles because the nature of world-building needed them to. Indeed, we see some of this in "Mudd's Women" with the title characters contracting out as wives for whoever takes them. Yet even while that was happening on the frontier, back at Starfleet headquarters women were just as equal as they had always been, because they had that luxury there.
As for ENT being TOS techwise, just by another name, it could well be argued that it takes a threshold level of technology to engage in space adventures in the Trek universe. You just plain can't do it until you discover phaser-type death rays, transporters and shields, and we saw the transitional bit where shields weren't available yet but the rest of the gear was.
Lasers aren't given the silent treatment for good, not in TOS: there's the reference to "old style lasers" in "A Private Little War", without clear cues as to the definition of "old". But clearly lasers aren't any good as weapons in the era of phasers, just like breechloading rifles aren't. They might still do secondary work, as "bayonets" attached to phaser sidearms (bladed weapons being a very nice analogy, a technology that still kills but cannot be used as a weapon of war). Heck, Pike's phasers were the only ones so far with three barrels, other heroes packing just two - implicit or even explicit room for lasers there!
Sexism is a different issue. Not a sign of the times, clearly, as Kirk didn't have that exact sort. But Pike is not Kirk, and starship skippers are weird. There's nothing "wrong" with Pike having opinions of that sort, universe-building-wise.
Timo Saloniemi
Lasers aren't given the silent treatment for good, not in TOS: there's the reference to "old style lasers" in "A Private Little War", without clear cues as to the definition of "old". But clearly lasers aren't any good as weapons in the era of phasers, just like breechloading rifles aren't. They might still do secondary work, as "bayonets" attached to phaser sidearms (bladed weapons being a very nice analogy, a technology that still kills but cannot be used as a weapon of war). Heck, Pike's phasers were the only ones so far with three barrels, other heroes packing just two - implicit or even explicit room for lasers there!
Sexism is a different issue. Not a sign of the times, clearly, as Kirk didn't have that exact sort. But Pike is not Kirk, and starship skippers are weird. There's nothing "wrong" with Pike having opinions of that sort, universe-building-wise.
Timo Saloniemi
It's the same sort of dialogue as Taylor telling Lucius "Don't trust anybody over 30" in Planet of the Apes.
It breaks the 4th wall and speaks to the current cultural context of the audience rather than the future.
That isn't breaking the fourth wall. Taylor and his amazingly advanced spaceship were from 1972.
I agree, that was not breaking the fourth wall. Had he said "You'll have to pry that gun off my dead cold fingers." that would have not only broken the fourth wall but also be a little bit of time traveling to boot given that Charlton Heston said that much later in real life.
If only for the fact that electropolarised metal plates are used by modern militaries.
To what purpose?
Not being an engineer, I don't know. But it was pointed out when Enterprise aired that tanks and armoured personnel carriers in 2001 where using metal plates and meshes with high voltage to minimise the explosive damage taken from things like RPG's.
That it was an alternative to ceramic ablative plates, which were used too and the basis for the fictional equivalent the Defiant used.
Star Trek borrows a lot of it's ideas from current inventions as much as trying to inspire new ones.
One isolated item does not qualify as a lot. High voltage in armor plating is likely to cause cancer in the people driving the tank. In fact any prolonged proximity to high energy variable magnetic fields has proven deleterious effect on one's health. Then Again, maybe the military don't give a crap about the future health problems of the people they consider as cannon fodder.
More than likely. Since the alternative is being blown up altogether.
That doesn't justify poisoning your people. In fact that's rather atrocious reasoning.
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