Hey, I never noticed that before....

[USS Triumphant]

I regret ever wading into this mess. The original complaint about putting Uhura with a black man, that I was indirectly responding to, just raises all kinds of absurdities. Why complain if Uhura likes a black man? She's allowed.

I always assumed that the creature pulled the image of the man it turned into from Uhura's mind, and that it was probably the image of someone she found handsome when she was younger, possibly in puberty. Since she grew up in Africa, odds were in favor of that being a black man. There's no need to bring racism into it - statistics and geography explain it just fine.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Yes, well, she didn't recognize him. But maybe later she'll remember. Maybe he's the grown up version of another boy her own age she liked as a young teen.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Yes, well, she didn't recognize him. But maybe later she'll remember. Maybe he's the grown up version of another boy her own age she liked as a young teen.

Yep. Or someone who she saw randomly at some point who she found really attractive but never got to know. Or a character in a holonovel she read years ago.* Etc.


* I mean rec room novel.

 

[jep316]

Whatever the episode had done in that scene, somebody would call it racist. If the creature had taken another approach, we'd be hearing "Oh, she has to be swept off her feet by a white man?"

As it stands, we're hearing, "Oh, she's only allowed to be with a black man?" You can't win.

Everyone seems to forget Uhura flirting with Spock in the beginning of the episode..now while he's a Vulcan(though technically he is 1/2 Human and White)..she's still flirting with a non-Black Man..plus Nimoy is also not Black so we did have a scene on a 60's era TV show with a Black Woman and a White man having a flirtatious encounter.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I guess Mudd really liked the design of Ruth and Eve's dresses, since he gave them to his androids. Magda's didn't make the cut..

 

[ZapBrannigan]

Everyone seems to forget Uhura flirting with Spock in the beginning of the episode..now while he's a Vulcan(though technically he is 1/2 Human and White)..she's still flirting with a non-Black Man..plus Nimoy is also not Black so we did have a scene on a 60's era TV show with a Black Woman and a White man having a flirtatious encounter.

That's a scene that usually got cut for time in 1970s and early '80s syndication. And it's a great scene. As I understand it, Nichols improvised her bit and surprised Nimoy, who responded by improvising the thing about Vulcan having no moon.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

As I understand it, Nichols improvised her bit and surprised Nimoy, who responded by improvising the thing about Vulcan having no moon.

While I do understand that Nichols initially improvised her opening lines about being sick of saying "Hailing frequencies open" (She must have just finished "The Corbomite Maneuver" where I think that's literally all she says), I can't believe that the exchange about Vulcan's moon wasn't scripted. That seems too constructed to be anything but something from the mind of a writer. I think it's likely that Nichols' initial improv inspired a written scene that they later used.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Watched "The Paradise Syndrome" for the first time last night. Apparently, Miramanee isn't the only one attracted to "Kirok". A bug lands on his face and crawls around a little.

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[retroenzo]

I'm in the process of going through the backdated posts now but I got reminded of something.

I don't know if they corrected it with the new effects but this happens when the landing party are surrounded in Return of the Archons. Although McCoy is in a 'firing phaser' stance, no beam comes out of his phaser. This happens in two different angles.

I must admit that although I think it was an effects mistake, I like that of all people it was Doctor McCoy. Doing no harm with his phaser.

 

[publiusr]

Someone might have mentioned this before, but the actors often wore a black form fitting shirt under the TOS uniform to fill it out a bit better.

 

[locutus101]

Someone might have mentioned this before, but the actors often wore a black form fitting shirt under the TOS uniform to fill it out a bit better.

I seem to remember someone saying something to that effect.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

Someone might have mentioned this before, but the actors often wore a black form fitting shirt under the TOS uniform to fill it out a bit better.

A friend and I rewatched "Miri" together last night. About halfway through the episode, they wanted to make the crew looked a little more ragged and roughed-up, so they unzipped the tops of Shatner and Kelley's uniform shirts and then folded them under to try and make it look like they had been ripped. Kelley is wearing the black undershirt under his uniform; Shatner is not.

It really calls your attention to just how tight TOS had to be with the purse-strings sometimes. They weren't going to ruin two good uniform shirts if they could help it!

 

[ItsGreen]

The bum who takes the milk is missing a finger, miraculously re-grows it when he zaps himself with the phaser! (City On The Edge Of Forever)

 

[JonnyQuest037]

They should have just had James Doohan be his hand double!

 

[ZapBrannigan]

While I do understand that Nichols initially improvised her opening lines about being sick of saying "Hailing frequencies open" (She must have just finished "The Corbomite Maneuver" where I think that's literally all she says), I can't believe that the exchange about Vulcan's moon wasn't scripted. That seems too constructed to be anything but something from the mind of a writer. I think it's likely that Nichols' initial improv inspired a written scene that they later used.

It's possible that Nimoy was a quick-thinking actor who constructed much of his reply "in the moment," when she sprang it on him in rehearsal.

The way it all played out so well on film, I'd agree the scene got some polish first.

 

[ZapBrannigan]

Watched "The Paradise Syndrome" for the first time last night. Apparently, Miramanee isn't the only one attracted to "Kirok". A bug lands on his face and crawls around a little.

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This was your first viewing? I love "The Paradise Syndrome," but I've been seeing it since I was a kid. Did the tragedy play out effectively for you, was it touching? Did you like the Gerald Fried music score?

 

[Marsden]

More importantly, did the fly get his SAG card for that contribution? I know, you might be thinking, he's an extra, but I heard buzz, which is a speaking part. This fly did his best to add realism to this scene and needs just remuneration and credit.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Eager to get a first-timer's first impressions? I've been watching TOS lately via library DVDs.

For the most part, I liked the music, though it seemed off in spots, a little too magical for some of the more serious scenes. And things happened awfully fast, that we saw. I would have liked it better if Kirk began the episode with his wife, and we find out later through expository story-telling that he had been gone for a while and Spock had been in command. Maybe show the ship having almost gotten used to Spock in command long term, and when, during a senior staff meeting, Spock brings up the subject of their new orders which will be effective following the asteroid's successful deflection, McCoy and him talk about the possibility that they would be leaving Kirk behind. Not just, "Spock, take a nap!" "Yes, doctor." *fingers crossed* They did discuss Kirk, but having everyone else witnessing this uncomfortable exchange would be dramatic.

I love Kirk's swing on a tree fight move. And Miramanee using a papoose carrier to tell him she was pregnant, instead of booties (or moccasins, for that matter).

The way he stayed with her until the end and they talked as though it wasn't coming to an end - that's kind of a trope, but at least they didn't all laugh on the bridge Kirk being a god.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

More importantly, did the fly get his SAG card for that contribution? I know, you might be thinking, he's an extra, but I heard buzz, which is a speaking part. This fly did his best to add realism to this scene and needs just remuneration and credit.

Is it possible to tell which species of insect it was?

 

[johnnybear]

A Shatner loving one?
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