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Was blowing up Romulus a good idea?

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Part of that comes from the very police state style society that was constructed as well. Step out of line and they come and take you away with the Tal Shiar.
 
I am not sure. The technologically advanced are usually the ones who win wars.

Not always. And Trek actually has precedent, I believe - didn't the Klingons take a lot of their technology from the advanced alien race that conquered them in the past (who the Klingons then ultimately rose up against and drove out of the alpha quadrant)?
 
Not always. And Trek actually has precedent, I believe - didn't the Klingons take a lot of their technology from the advanced alien race that conquered them in the past (who the Klingons then ultimately rose up against and drove out of the alpha quadrant)?

Not according to the series or the movies.
 
The part about the Klingons first getting warp drive from the Hur'q may have only been added in secondary sources, but the fact that the Klingons defeated them wasn't.

I know it was said, in the Sword Of Kahless (I believe). But it's really hard to believe that a bunch of medieval barbarians, that spent most of their time fighting each other, like we were ourselves in medieval times, would be able to defeat people with such advanced technology. Who do you think would win if a battalion of modern soldiers was attacked by a bunch of people on horses in suits of armor and chainmail, armed with lances?
 
I know it was said, in the Sword Of Kahless (I believe). But it's really hard to believe that a bunch of medieval barbarians, that spent most of their time fighting each other, like we were ourselves in medieval times, would be able to defeat people with such advanced technology. Who do you think would win if a battalion of modern soldiers was attacked by a bunch of people on horses in suits of armor and chainmail, armed with lances?

I don't recall the exact wording, but I believe the Hur'q were said to have ruled the Klingons for a significant period of time. Klingon insurgents no doubt would have taken every opportunity to use the advanced enemy technology, so the difference would not be as huge as you suggest. And when the difference in technology levels isn't ridiculously massive, there are plenty of other factors that can swing the balance (see WW2, Vietnam, etc).
 
I don't recall the exact wording, but I believe the Hur'q were said to have ruled the Klingons for a significant period of time. Klingon insurgents no doubt would have taken every opportunity to use the advanced enemy technology, so the difference would not be as huge as you suggest. And when the difference in technology levels isn't ridiculously massive, there are plenty of other factors that can swing the balance (see WW2, Vietnam, etc).

WW2: They had the same weapons.
Vietnam: They had the same kind of weaponry, maybe less expensive but that was compensated by their will to fight. And the lack of popularity of the war on our side.
 
WW2: They had the same weapons.
Vietnam: They had the same kind of weaponry, maybe less expensive but that was compensated by their will to fight. And the lack of popularity of the war on our side.

German technology was undeniably superior in WW2. But it ultimately didn't matter because of various different reasons (primarily because the Germans were massively outproduced).

And the Viet Cong had basically no air force - a technological inferiority that's pretty extreme in and of itself.

Not to mention, that sort of compensation that you mention is exactly what I mean when I say that other factors can tip the balance. Is it that hard to believe that the Klingons were more willing to fight, that they had better local knowledge, maybe even that they outnumbered their masters by a significant margin?
 
German technology was undeniably superior in WW2. But it ultimately didn't matter because of various different reasons (primarily because the Germans were massively outproduced).
The German bit off more than they could chew and that was their ultimate undoing. Had they consolidated their position they could have lasted much longer. Fortunately for us they didn't.
And the Viet Cong had basically no air force - a technological inferiority that's pretty extreme in and of itself.

Yes, but we weren't supported much by the locals and that made us drastically inferior in numbers. They were also willing to sacrifice a great deal more than the American troops were.
 
Sometimes you need to shake up the status quo, destroying one of the Federation's major enemies and powers in the alpha quadrant does that.
 
They have about 30 enemies, probably more than 50 because of Voyager, they got rid of the most boring ones homeworld, not killed off their race or their fleet.
 
They have about 30 enemies, probably more than 50 because of Voyager, they got rid of the most boring ones homeworld, not killed off their race or their fleet.

Note that the Klingons were supposed to decay after the explosion of Praxis. They didn't. In fact a few decades later they were able to win a war against the Federation (in a parallel reality that's shown in Yesterday's Enterprise). That's bizarre.
 
Apparently, the loss of a homeworld isn't as big a threat as the constant worries over Earth would have us think.

With something like the Federation, Klingon or Rihansu Empires etc, enough of a population has spread out to prevent extinction and provide resources to stave off climatiological collapse.

Qo'Nos certainly has a much more bleak atmosphere with Klingons huddled inside a lot more than the beautiful blue version in Enterprise where they were frequently outdoors, so it did have some effect.

I think they were panicking over it more than they should have been in TUC, and Gorkin used it to his adventage to push for peace. Probably why Chang did what he did, knowing he could sabotage the peace talks and still have a powerful enough Empire by the time the dust settled.
 
Sometimes you need to shake up the status quo, destroying one of the Federation's major enemies and powers in the alpha quadrant does that.
Except what they did in Trek XI was, "in the late 24th century Romulus is destroyed. And now, here's a rebooted mid-23rd century in which Romulus still exists." They didn't shake up a status quo, they just included a plot detail which was irrelevant to the over all storyline of the movie.
 
Except what they did in Trek XI was, "in the late 24th century Romulus is destroyed. And now, here's a rebooted mid-23rd century in which Romulus still exists." They didn't shake up a status quo, they just included a plot detail which was irrelevant to the over all storyline of the movie.
Save for how it impacted Nero.
 
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