There was once a re-edit of the "In A Mirror, Darkly" credits which used Rammstein's "Links 2 3 4" as the theme song.
If that had been used on the show, the awesomeness would have risen to Robau-like levels.
General thoughts on ENT?
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There was once a re-edit of the "In A Mirror, Darkly" credits which used Rammstein's "Links 2 3 4" as the theme song.
If that had been used on the show, the awesomeness would have risen to Robau-like levels.
It had some interesting ideas but some of them just challenged and broke my suspension of belief. "Broken Bow" was hardly the "disastrous first contact" with the Klingons that Picard alluded to in TNG. The temporal cold war and Archer time hopping really seems to contradict Spock's surprise in "The Naked Time" about the ability to travel back in time which he made it sound like it was a "first time." The Vulcans were downright annoying and contemptuous to the humans. The season 4 story arc helped alleviate it but it still left a bad taste in my mouth. Again, this is just my opinion, but I would have liked Enterprise a little better if the transporter hadn't been invented just quite yet. Trip, T'Pol and Phlox were interesting characters. The others could have used a little more fleshing out to make them more likable to me. Archer's nadir was his attitude in "A Night in Sickbay." I respected Sisko's actions in "By the Pale Moon Light" more. Enterprise just saddled itself with trying to meet too many expectations by setting itself up as a prequel. You can't please all the people all the time. Hopefully, Discovery does its homework a little better.
Just curious...because so many people point out inconsistencies in ENT and how it doesn't fit with "canon". Because the other series came first, they get to set up canon, which ENT violated? But,,in the timeline, ENT came first, so from THAT perspective, ENT gets to establish the canon, which is then "violated" by the series taking place in the future after ENT . ( sacrilegious I know, since TOS is supposed to be the Trek "bible" right?)
Anyway, since ENT is my favorite series, that is the perspective I take.
BTW.."The Good that Men Do" is in my head canon. All the relaunch books are part of my head canon.
And now I will sit alone at my very lonely table with my very different perspective.
Anyway, since ENT is my favorite series, that is the perspective I take.
BTW.."The Good that Men Do" is in my head canon. All the relaunch books are part of my head canon.
And now I will sit alone at my very lonely table with my very different perspective.
You are not alone. I have the same view and I sit with youAnd now I will sit alone at my very lonely table with my very different perspective.
Just curious...because so many people point out inconsistencies in ENT and how it doesn't fit with "canon". Because the other series came first, they get to set up canon, which ENT violated? But,,in the timeline, ENT came first, so from THAT perspective, ENT gets to establish the canon, which is then "violated" by the series taking place in the future after ENT . ( sacrilegious I know, since TOS is supposed to be the Trek "bible" right?)
Anyway, since ENT is my favorite series, that is the perspective I take.
BTW.."The Good that Men Do" is in my head canon. All the relaunch books are part of my head canon.
And now I will sit alone at my very lonely table with my very different perspective.
Oh, I respect your perspective. I don't expect my "head canon" to match everybody else's "head canon."
Whether we choose to line up all the different Trek series in one timeline or across several...it's all still "Star Trek" to me. Star Trek, to me, is an exploration of ideas about the human condition that knows no boundaries. It's the sharing of ideas...whether finding a kindred spirit or being "challenged" to re-evaluate my perspective from time to time that makes being a Trekker fun. Please, never feel lonely at the "Trek table" or sharing a different perspective with me.
There was once a re-edit of the "In A Mirror, Darkly" credits which used Rammstein's "Links 2 3 4" as the theme song.
If that had been used on the show, the awesomeness would have risen to Robau-like levels.
I couldn't agree more.
The way I see any continuity issues with enterprise comes down to the temporal cold war, and that it does seem to follow continuity with the rebooted films rather the old series.
The temporal cold war doesn't make much sense. People who tamper with their past are more likely to put themselves out of existence than anything else and as matter of fact they even did it in Shockwave, the moment Archer left the present, future guy just winked out of existence.
I loved ENT from start to finish. Really enjoyed it.
True love is blind.
I sit at the lonely table of people who think that "Horizon" is the best ENT episode.
I wonder which table is lonelier...your table of Horizon fans...or the table of TATV fans?
Well, if no one's at that other table, and I'm the only one at this one, then clearly this one is lonelier!I wonder which table is lonelier...your table of Horizon fans...or the table of TATV fans?
The disaster was on its way. Human augmentation science was used by the Klingons in order to create supersoldiers, but instead it created a plague. Guess who they would blame for that?
Of course. The Vulcan Science Directorate had declared time travel to be impossible.
As usual.
That's a bizarre comparison. Pale Moon Light is a heavy drama, while Night In Sickbay is light comedy (albeit predicated on the captain suffering a nervous breakdown).
Thanks for that contribution to the discussion.
I don't think we ever saw that disastrous first contact Picard was speaking of. If anything the Klingons should be grateful for all the help they got from humans by the end of season 4. Let's tally it:
1) We saved them from a civil war.
2) We saved one of their ships sinking in a gas giant
3) We helped them after they stupidly tried to use the augment virus on themselves.
If they started a war after all that, that must have been for a serious motive. I can't imagine what.
1) We saved them from a civil war.
2) We saved one of their ships sinking in a gas giant
3) We helped them after they stupidly tried to use the augment virus on themselves.
If they started a war after all that, that must have been for a serious motive. I can't imagine what.
The Klingons should be grateful, and some probably do feel grateful. But seeing their pride, most probably the greater part of them don't feel grateful.
The government made mistake in the case of the augments, they probably want to hide it and get someone to blame. Humans seem to be the easy target. Therefore war.
Plausible?
Was there ever an actual war with the Klingons? I take the "disaster" to mean that relations with the Klingons went from potentially positive to Cold War conditions.
Klingons are imbeciles. If someone saved your empire from self-destruction, one would expect that you'd be grateful to them for life but not these idiots. They'll hate you all the same at the first chance they get.
Well, if no one's at that other table, and I'm the only one at this one, then clearly this one is lonelier!
Logical.
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