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General thoughts on ENT?

"Faith of the Heart" is a pathetic '80s style soft-rock power ballad. No, thanks. :thumbdown:

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Late to the party, I offer my thoughts.

I loved seasons one and two. Three was a desperate attempt to be Deep Space Nine. Season four was gah-bage. Everything that's ever been wrong with trek was crammed into it for no damn good reason.

Calling it just "Enterprise" was genius. Adding the Star Trek was shameless branding and started the downward slide.

"Faith of The Heart" is a better theme tune than DS9's and VOY's toneless wannabe symphonies, and the only reason TNG's theme is better is because TNG stole it from a TOS movie!

"Silent Enemy" and "Dead Stop" are the best episodes of the series.
 
I never understood the hate for "FAITH OF THE HEART." I mean, it's not like fans are expected to rock out to it, or anything. It's a solid song, professionally performed, it serves its purpose. Is this just a complaint that people as a show of solidarity, or something? Like nothing uniting as a common enemy does, kind of a thing?

Agreed! But I do love the visuals. I just wish they had used a more orchestral theme like they did in all the other Treks.
I like both the song and the visuals!
 
I never understood the hate for "FAITH OF THE HEART." I mean, it's not like fans are expected to rock out to it, or anything. It's a solid song, professionally performed, it serves its purpose. Is this just a complaint that people as a show of solidarity, or something?
From what I've seen of the internet, that must certainly be a part of it (according to fanboys, every genre thing must either be an eternal masterpiece or an atrocity worse that the Holocaust).
But I genuinely disliked the song for a long time. It's just not my kind of music. I've recently come around a bit, less because of the music than the lyrics - it's the aspirational, hopeful nature of Trek made explicit.

I imagine some of the reaction is just because people feel Trek ought to have orchestral music for its theme, and although I wouldn't absolutely agree, I can definitely see the point. Part of it is it's Trek tradition, part of it is that orchestral music has a timelessness i.e. it doesn't date, and a grandness of scale that you don't get with songs.
 
But I genuinely disliked the song for a long time. It's just not my kind of music. I've recently come around a bit, less because of the music than the lyrics - it's the aspirational, hopeful nature of Trek made explicit.
I have a disabled son and this song could be his personal theme song. For that reason alone, I liked it. (My mom liked it so much she downloaded it from ITunes).

As much as I like orchestral music, I never much cared for ANY of the Trek themes. Doesn't matter to me though. They are only like 30 seconds long. It's not like it affected my enjoyment of the series.
 
Hey Willow, I assume you've seen Channel 4's awesome promo for the paralympics? link


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As much as I like orchestral music, I never much cared for ANY of the Trek themes ...
I must confess that I find the orchestral theme music of STAR TREK television, especially, to be too bright ... too bombastic ... too garish. And the pop song ENT uses, at least, has music that's more focused on complimenting the lead vocals, so it's not as distracting. And if you pay attention to the lyrics, it does set the table for what the audience is about to see. It puts you in that kind of a mindset, where you're looking forward to a hopeful journey as a starting point ...
 
I must confess that I find the orchestral theme music of STAR TREK television, especially, to be too bright ... too bombastic ... too garish.
I could see that argument for TOS and TNG, but not so much for DS9 and VOY, which were more muted.

BTW, I kinda wish TNG had used the TMP recording of the theme, as the TV version always sounded a bit tinny to my ears.
 
I have a disabled son and this song could be his personal theme song. For that reason alone, I liked it. (My mom liked it so much she downloaded it from ITunes).
Loved the song/images from the very beginning but I like that kind of vocal performance as a rule. We have the Enterprise music CD and I played FOTH as the last song at our 25th anniversary party. It HAD been a long road getting from there to here.
 
I have a disabled son and this song could be his personal theme song. For that reason alone, I liked it.
I have always liked Russell Watson (have several of his albums) so liking this song wasn't difficult and yes the lyrics is very positive.

I noticed that they changed the tempo in Season 3, and making it faster. I wonder why, maybe criticism for the somewhat melancholic melody and tempo in the previous seasons? I myself prefer the slower tempo.

Anyway, I really like the visuals though. It makes ENT that much closer to our current world, making us believe it is something that happens in not so distant future.

Hey Willow, I assume you've seen Channel 4's awesome promo for the paralympics? link
Woah that is brilliantly inspirational!
 
Hey Willow, I assume you've seen Channel 4's awesome promo for the paralympics? link


EDIT: I just scrolled down and saw "comments are disabled for this video" - worst pun ever.
It's an awesome video..very simple message "yes I can". I pretty much can't do most of what is in that video, and I'm able bodied !

My son does Special Olympics locally. It's an amazing program.
 
Enterprise is my favorite Trek series out of all of them, and I don't care who knows it.

Further thoughts:

- Scott Bakula did a fine job as Captain Archer.

- As did Jolene Blalock as T'Pol.

- In fact I don't see a bad actor in the bunch.

- ENT fit seamlessly with Trek continuity. Anything it supposedly violated was just part of "fanon" and never actually existed. So there. :p

- Only problem is that they didn't do enough Mirror Universe episodes.

- Really wishing they'd got the chance to do the Earth-Romulan War.

- And the Colonel Green episode (which eventually became the Arik Soong / Augments arc).

- As for "These Are The Voyages": I fully accept The Good That Men Do and its retelling of that episode. That's definitely part of my Head Canon.
 
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A really terrible show that killed any notion of TV Trek for a decade. It got a little better in season 4 when everyone knew it would be cancelled and no one was watching, so they could just fuck around.
 
A really terrible show that killed any notion of TV Trek for a decade. It got a little better in season 4 when everyone knew it would be cancelled and no one was watching, so they could just fuck around.

They were much better when no one was looking. I guess they're just not good under pressure. Perhaps they should have lied to the writers from the first episode and told them than the ratings were abysmal it would have incited them to do a better job.
 
They were much better when no one was looking. I guess they're just not good under pressure. Perhaps they should have lied to the writers from the first episode and told them than the ratings were abysmal it would have incited them to do a better job.

I'm not sure on the history of the show but didn't B&B leave the show around middle of season 3, which is why they wrapped that "main" story up rather quickly? Then season 4 they just let the writers go nuts, then they returned for that abomination of a finale which felt like a giant troll since the running joke in Trekdom was about people hoping the Enterprise finale final line was "Computer, end programme".
 
I'm not sure on the history of the show but didn't B&B leave the show around middle of season 3, which is why they wrapped that "main" story up rather quickly? Then season 4 they just let the writers go nuts, then they returned for that abomination of a finale which felt like a giant troll since the running joke in Trekdom was about people hoping the Enterprise finale final line was "Computer, end programme".

To me it looks like they knew then that the show was doomed and they didn't give a shit anymore. The show is their way of flipping the audience off.
 
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