• Welcome! The TrekBBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans.
    If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

TOS Region 2 DVDs not remastered

Well, yes. But that 576 is likely mastered from the 480 video source.

Not necessarily. If a film or HD source is available, then it's possible to master a PAL DVD at the full 576i resolution. That's what they've done on the Babylon 5 DVDs I'm currently watching, the widescreen film elements are at max res, while the effects shots are scaled up from the NTSC source, in many ways it's a precedent for the current vogue for cheaper TV show Blu-rays like the X Files which don't recomposite the effects shots, and merely upscale them along side the film to HD re-master for the live elements. Alas, I've never seen the UK TOS DVDs to comment (went from VHS to BD), but I'd expect them to be full whack 576i native with PAL speed-up.
 
Not necessarily. If a film or HD source is available, then it's possible to master a PAL DVD at the full 576i resolution. That's what they've done on the Babylon 5 DVDs I'm currently watching, the widescreen film elements are at max res, while the effects shots are scaled up from the NTSC source, in many ways it's a precedent for the current vogue for cheaper TV show Blu-rays like the X Files which don't recomposite the effects shots, and merely upscale them along side the film to HD re-master for the live elements. Alas, I've never seen the UK TOS DVDs to comment (went from VHS to BD), but I'd expect them to be full whack 576i native with PAL speed-up.

Wouldn't that have required Paramount to master the episodes twice? Once at 480, and again at 576? Paramount just never came across as an effort kind of company in those regards.
 
Wouldn't that have required Paramount to master the episodes twice? Once at 480, and again at 576? Paramount just never came across as an effort kind of company in those regards.

They did it for TNG and DS9 on DVD believe it or not. The US discs are native 480 line NTSC, and the PAL region discs are scaled up from NTSC as you'd expect, but rather than cheaping out for a standards conversion, maintaining the frame rate and introducing interlacing and ghosting artefacts, they applied PAL speed-up to get a PAL native 25fps playback with no ghosting (the TNG Blu-rays shocked me with just how deep Worf's voice actually is). Besides, they had to remaster DS9 anyway to apply the BBFC mandated cuts to two episodes. There cheapness did reveal itself here, as all PAL territories have the cut DS9 episodes, despite the fact that only the UK mandated the edits.
 
It's a strange system agreed but I can't say you really notice any difference apart from the time counter on your set! Well it didn't bother me anyway! Although I once watched Hellraiser 2 on a region 1 disc it almost seemed to slow down for me. Unless it was a faulty disc of course? Haven't watched it in years so not sure...
JB
 
Does this mean the UK/PAL broadcasts of U.S. programs were sped up, and people had higher voices??

Yes indeed. Unless it was an NTSC-PAL standards conversion (usually anime DVDs) all broadcast television imported from outside PAL regions was and still is sped up to 25fps. Our HD broadcast format in the UK is 1080i 50Hz, which also has to be sped up. I never ever noticed PAL speed up until I started buying Blu-rays, mostly 1080p 24fps, and there's been a lot of PAL DVDs to compare to as I've double dipped. Voices have lowered, films have gotten longer. I'm getting used to it now, but things like TNG, which I watched on PAL TV, VHS and DVD some 20 times over have burned into my mind, so the Blu-rays are a bit of shock.
 
If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Sign up / Register


Back
Top