They are not actually making one female, but adding a new female character - but I don't like the idea of that either in their case. It's not as if I'd be happy with every story I read or series/film I watched had only white male characters - but I really don't think the Impossibles will be improved by having a token female! Do you object to Josie and the Pussycats being an all-female band?Why is making one of them a woman in any way spoiling them?
Do you realize just how selfish and shallow that post is?
And while 3 white males in one cartoon is inconspicuous yes, it becomes an issue when the vast, if not overwhelming majority of characters are white males, it becomes an incredible oversight - so something has to give.
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...you completely glossed over the "overwhelming majority" point, didn't you?
I don't object to The Impossibles specifically being an all male band. I'd never even heard of them before now. What I object to is the overwhelming majority of mainstream pop culture fictional characters been white, male, cis, and straight. Something has to give there. Given that Legacy Characters and shows are really big right now, it's going to have to be those shows in the long run.
That said, just adding a random woman does smack of potential tokenism, which is also bad. Adding in one woman or minority figure in a largely or overwhelming white cishet male cast doesn't do much to correct the "overwhelming" thing.
No, I disagree with changing established series, ect. just to fit a PC agenda, unless it's something truly offensive. Unless it's something like the Green Lantern Corps and Legion of Super Heroes where adding new members - and occasionally removing others - was part of the premise anyway.
But how exactly does it hurt them? Why is it such a horrible addition? What is it about the group that says it can't have a woman in it?
That is the thing I'm still confused by with this whole thing.
I could maybe understand if there was some specific way that the girl hurt the team or the dynamic of the members, but so far this just seems to me like someone who is stuck in the '60s and just can't deal with change.
That is the thing I'm still confused by with this whole thing.
I could maybe understand if there was some specific way that the girl hurt the team or the dynamic of the members, but so far this just seems to me like someone who is stuck in the '60s and just can't deal with change.
Why is making one of them a woman in any way spoiling them?
Take my word for that, there is nothing to spoil. Like other cartoon shows of that period, their stories are action-driven. The three main characters (except for their powers) are virtually interchangeable. We know nothing about them - their backstories, how they obtained their powers etc. They are blank slates. If you are curious you can find some of their adventures on Internet - they are very short, six-seven minutes max.
If you watch the cartoon, you can see there is an interaction and camaraderie between the trio which I really feel would be spoiled by the addition of another member - of either sex. And it will take attention from the originals. As for change - why have any that is not an improvement - in fact just the opposite - to suit PC extremists who probably won't buy the comic anyway? And why couldn't this character have been a supporting one, but not an actual Impossibles member, if she is needed for the story?
There is no "dynamic" of the members. They are paper-thin characters. Really, Space Ghost or the Herculoids are Watchmen-level character-studies compared to the Impossibles.
I'm not saying that this is a bad thing, really. It was just a light and fun show. But there is a reason why other shows are more fondly remembered.
I actually like the fact that the origin is a mystery, in their case, and the ludicrousness of no-one realising that the hero and musician Impossibles are the same! I actually think they had distinct characters and looks - their different looks and body types, in fact, are a great example of diversity! I personally think the cartoon is absolutely enchanting, and it dosen't really fit with the others in Future Quest - very different story style.
Personally - I can see a definate dynamic between them - a real team!
@S.Gallagher, you know that none is going to retroactively remove from existences the previous adventures of The Impossibles, right? Actually, it is likely that there will be new readers interested in them. Miller's Batman and Batman '66 can happily co-exist and also have the same readers.
Getting new people interested in the original version, (and renewing the interest of others who were already familiar), is one of the few good things I can see about their appearance in Future Quest!
Who said anything about the change being made to suit PC extremists? Isn't it possible that Parker made the changes because he wanted to, because he thought it made the group more interesting?
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So, uhh, how about those other Hanna-Babera comics, there's gotta be some interesting stuff to discuss there ............ right?
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Perhaps he did.........can't help but think he was influenced - directly or indirectly - by some PC agenda, though. Whatever, it obviously hasn't worked for me. As to the other comics in the series - it seems as if "Scooby Apocalypse" has been well received, and that the writer was already a staunch Scooby fan!Who said anything about the change being made to suit PC extremists? Isn't it possible that Parker made the changes because he wanted to, because he thought it made the group more interesting?
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So, uhh, how about those other Hanna-Babera comics, there's gotta be some interesting stuff to discuss there ............ right?
Yes, sorry
A friend of mine lent me Flinstones (that I liked) and Scooby Apocalypse (that was... meh?). I didn't read Waky Raceland.By the way, I really, really liked the Space Ghost miniseries published in the 2005. I'm sure that @S.Gallagher would appreciate it. It was so dark and gritty.
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So, uhh, how about those other Hanna-Babera comics, there's gotta be some interesting stuff to discuss there ............ right?
Well, I said my bit about why I'm not reading Future Quest several pages back, because to me it seems like a step backwards in diversity from the Quest team I know.
Based on what? The comic industry is full of progressive people with progressive ideas. Few need any encouragement or pressure to put those ideas into print. Most are probably coming to the editors with those ideas.
When you start dropping terms like "PC Agenda" and "SJWs" you sound like someone with their own agenda. And that agenda isn't a positive one.
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