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DC Comics is doing new versions of The Flintstones, Johnny Quest, Scooby Doo, Wacky Races

Or the fact that it's an open secret that women are treated like shit in the DC editorial offices upto and including sexual assault.
That is beyond dreadful and needs dealing with in no uncertain terms! However, the changes to the Impossibles will not help that - the women who have been victimised in this way need help from the law without fearing for their jobs, which I suspect is preventing them from speaking up.
 
Because they want it make fit a modern style more.
Then it's about aesthetics, not practicality. It's not a change that has to be made to make a better movie, just one that the current creators wanted.

"It won't hurt anything" is not a compelling reason to change things about a mythos. There ought to be something that the change brings to the piece.

A great example? When a black Nick Fury was first introduced in Marvel's Ultimates line. I'm sure there was controversy over that change, but that change opened the door to Marvel Studios casting Samuel L. Jackson in the role for the MCU. Samuel L. Jackson! Y'know who last played Fury in a movie before SLJ? David Hasselhoff! SLJ is an obvious upgrade.

Show me that a change made for diversity, or modernity or any other buzzword also improves the mythos in that manner and I'll stop objecting.
 
The two by Tim Story replaced a white Sue Storm with a Latina, and the only logic I can see behind that (because it's not like you can't find a pretty white blond girl in HOLLYWOOD) is that Jessica Alba is a guaranteed box office draw, whereas the rest of the cast was unproven on the big screen.
I honestly didn't know that she was Latina (and no, the name didn't clue me in). Although technically Latina is a subcategory of "white", but that's a tangent we don't need to pursue here.

Changing a character's heritage in comics is something that I don't care much about as long as the original's personality and traits are still intact, and maybe if there's a good story reason for it. As for movie versions of the characters, I just want them to get a good actor, whoever that might be. The above example of Nick Fury is an excellent example.
 
Then it's about aesthetics, not practicality. It's not a change that has to be made to make a better movie, just one that the current creators wanted.

"It won't hurt anything" is not a compelling reason to change things about a mythos. There ought to be something that the change brings to the piece.

A great example? When a black Nick Fury was first introduced in Marvel's Ultimates line. I'm sure there was controversy over that change, but that change opened the door to Marvel Studios casting Samuel L. Jackson in the role for the MCU. Samuel L. Jackson! Y'know who last played Fury in a movie before SLJ? David Hasselhoff! SLJ is an obvious upgrade.

Show me that a change made for diversity, or modernity or any other buzzword also improves the mythos in that manner and I'll stop objecting.
I think adding diversity is enough of an improvement all on it's own. :shrug:
 
Changing a character's heritage in comics is something that I don't care much about as long as the original's personality and traits are still intact, and maybe if there's a good story reason for it.
In the case of Fury in the comics his personality was transferred whole into the new character. The reason was valid. All the characters in Ultimates needed new backgrounds.

As for movie versions of the characters, I just want them to get a good actor, whoever that might be.

Congratulations. You're a better man than I am. I freely admit it. Good for you. Now let me give you the short version of what I've already spent a few thousand words explaining: I want to see on the screen what I saw in the comics, or the closest approximation possible. I'm not enough of a drama critic to care how good the actor is if he looks nothing like who I want to see.

The above example of Nick Fury is an excellent example.

And the guy playing him looks like the character in the comics.

I think adding diversity is enough of an improvement all on it's own. :shrug:
Ask anyone who's ever been treated like a token in an organization if diversity on it's own is enough reason to be there...
 
In the case of Fury in the comics his personality was transferred whole into the new character. The reason was valid. All the characters in Ultimates needed new backgrounds.



Congratulations. You're a better man than I am. I freely admit it. Good for you. Now let me give you the short version of what I've already spent a few thousand words explaining: I want to see on the screen what I saw in the comics, or the closest approximation possible. I'm not enough of a drama critic to care how good the actor is if he looks nothing like who I want to see.



And the guy playing him looks like the character in the comics.


Ask anyone who's ever been treated like a token in an organization if diversity on it's own is enough reason to be there...
And by the same token - no use to me how brilliantly written and illustrated the Impossible's role in Future Quest is if they are not faithful to the cartoon version.
 
That is beyond dreadful and needs dealing with in no uncertain terms! However, the changes to the Impossibles will not help that - the women who have been victimised in this way need help from the law without fearing for their jobs, which I suspect is preventing them from speaking up.

You're exactly right. A lot of people seem to equate real life problems with fictional media and start bringing that shit up. I have no explanation for why this equivocation happens all the time.
 
That is beyond dreadful and needs dealing with in no uncertain terms! However, the changes to the Impossibles will not help that - the women who have been victimised in this way need help from the law without fearing for their jobs, which I suspect is preventing them from speaking up.
You're exactly right. A lot of people seem to equate real life problems with fictional media and start bringing that shit up. I have no explanation for why this equivocation happens all the time.
Was someone suggesting that a female Impossible would somehow solve the problem of sexual harassment?
 
The first part is correct. But I'm hardly neutral.
Yes you are, if all you're doing is championing things every movie is automatically supposed to have. Saying you prefer focus on story, acting and writing is like saying "I don't care what model car it is as long as it has an engine, tires and a steering wheel."
 
I don't see the problem with that kind of an attitude.
I just still don't understand why all of this is so upsetting for you guys.
 
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I don't see the problem with that kind of an attitude.
It's settling. It's saying "That movie didn't show me a damn thing I wanted to see but thank god everybody did their jobs right. Yay, professionalism!"

These are motion pictures. They are required to show you something. Either they show you something that you want to see or show you something that you didn't know you wanted to see. If it shows you neither, then it's a waste of a ticket, no matter how expertly the film was crafted.

And to un-hijack the thread, it's the same with comics. From what I've seen of the sample images of the comics in this line-up they are all well drawn and professionally written. Yet, only one of them is showing me what I want to see, so that's the one getting my money. And there's nothing wrong with that attitude either.
 
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