TOS Movie Era Novels

[DeepSpaceYorks]

Is someone able to list me all the novels that take place between the end of TMP and the start of the 2293 part of Generations please? I just want to read them all

 

[Greg Cox]

I can't list them all, but among my own work:

TO RULE IN HELL
FOUL DEEDS WILL RISE
MIASMA

 

[Jinn]

Is someone able to list me all the novels that take place between the end of TMP and the start of the 2293 part of Generations please?

Others are:
Ex Machina
Pawns and Symbols
The Kobayashi Maru (framing story)
Home is the Hunter
Enemy Unseen
Firestorm
Ice Trap
Shell Game
Death Count
The Prometheus Design
The Wounded Sky
My Enemy, My Ally
Doctor's Orders
Spock's World
The Better Man
The Covenant of the Crown
Timetrap
The Romulan Way
Swordhunt
Honor Blade
Rules of Engagement
Deep Domain
Ships of the Line (Chapters 1-5)
Wagon Trail to the Stars
Belle Terre
Rough Trails
The Flaming Arrow
Thin Air
Challenger
Chainmail
Foundations, Book Three (I suppose a novella always has novel in it...)
The Pandora Principle
Dwellers in the Crucible
Strangers from the Sky
Time for Yesterday
The Wrath of Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan
The Voyage Home
To Reign in Hell (framing story set here, rest goes from 2267 to 2285)
The Final Frontier
In the Name of Honor
Probe
The Rift
Starfleet Academy (novelization of the Starfleet Academy computer game)
Treaty's Law (prologue and epilogue)
Cacophony (audiobook)
Envoy (audiobook)
The Undiscovered Country
Sarek
Mind Meld
Shadows on the Sun
Generations (chapter 1)

(source:Voyages of imagination)
Also: The Darkness Drops Again, The Blood-Dimmed Tide and It's Hour Come Round (all novellas and part of Mere Anarchy) are set after TMP (See here for more information)
Forged in Fire, Unspoken Truth, Foul Deeds Will Rise, Elusive Salvation (or at least the 2283 parts),
I was unaible to determine when Crisis of Consciousness and Savage Trade are set.

 

[DeepSpaceYorks]

That's a list to work with. It's difficult to work out from the covers I find as often the characters are in 5YM costumes. For example, I've just finished Kobayashi Maru and Wounded Sky but both covers depict pre TMP uniforms on the cover.

 

[Jinn]

That's a list to work with. It's difficult to work out from the covers I find as often the characters are in 5YM costumes. For example, I've just finished Kobayashi Maru and Wounded Sky but both covers depict pre TMP uniforms on the cover.

Yeah, the covers aren't always consistent with the story. And sometimes the ranks and stuff aren't consistent with references to post-TMP events.

 

[DeepSpaceYorks]

As someone who's been a Star Trek fan for over 30 years but never really been interested in the lit before I'm finding it a little tricky to work my way through the maze of releases and continuities and decide what I need to buy or skip.

 

[Christopher]

Yeah, the covers aren't always consistent with the story. And sometimes the ranks and stuff aren't consistent with references to post-TMP events.

That's because The Wounded Sky and My Enemy, My Ally weren't originally intended to be post-TMP. They were in an odd sort of alternate continuity where the 5-year mission went on considerably longer (or there was a second 5YM) and the ship and crew were in sort of a transitional stage between the way they were in TOS and the way they were in TMP. Date references in The Romulan Way indicate that ME,MA was 7 years after "The Enterprise Incident," and ME,MA is set a month after TWS, but the first two books are definitely meant to be pre-TMP given character ranks and uniform descriptions, and TRW probably is too, since it came out before Spock's World, and that book is set shortly after TMP, with a bit about Kirk having recently done the paperwork to get officially bumped down from admiral to captain.

But that approach to Trek chronology doesn't work anymore, so when Duane returned to the Rihannsu series years later with Swordhunt, her editor at the time had her make it more overtly 5YM-era, even though it was after Spock's World, which created some continuity glitches. And then the conclusion, The Empty Chair, was delayed five years, and by that point, Marco Palmieri had taken over as editor, and he had Duane revamp the whole thing to be post-TMP for the reissue of the Rihannsu books in The Bloodwing Voyages, as well as in The Empty Chair. But the omnibus didn't include The Wounded Sky or Spock's World, so those books still reflect Duane's original chronological assumptions. It's all kind of a mess. (Although we're talking pretty minor details of the stories, rather than anything major or deal-breaking.)

 

[Jinn]

That's because The Wounded Sky and My Enemy, My Ally weren't originally intended to be post-TMP. They were in an odd sort of alternate continuity where the 5-year mission went on considerably longer (or there was a second 5YM) and the ship and crew were in sort of a transitional stage between the way they were in TOS and the way they were in TMP. Date references in The Romulan Way indicate that ME,MA was 7 years after "The Enterprise Incident," and ME,MA is set a month after TWS, but the first two books are definitely meant to be pre-TMP given character ranks and uniform descriptions, and TRW probably is too, since it came out before Spock's World, and that book is set shortly after TMP, with a bit about Kirk having recently done the paperwork to get officially bumped down from admiral to captain.

But that approach to Trek chronology doesn't work anymore, so when Duane returned to the Rihannsu series years later with Swordhunt, her editor at the time had her make it more overtly 5YM-era, even though it was after Spock's World, which created some continuity glitches. And then the conclusion, The Empty Chair, was delayed five years, and by that point, Marco Palmieri had taken over as editor, and he had Duane revamp the whole thing to be post-TMP for the reissue of the Rihannsu books in The Bloodwing Voyages, as well as in The Empty Chair. But the omnibus didn't include The Wounded Sky or Spock's World, so those books still reflect Duane's original chronological assumptions. It's all kind of a mess. (Although we're talking pretty minor details of the stories, rather than anything major or deal-breaking.)

And that's why I like to count the Rihannsu novels only as part of the 80s litverse.

 

[DeepSpaceYorks]

I can't imagine Wounded Sky taking place during the 5YM so in my mind I placed it post TMP when I read it the other week. I thought it was incredible, by the way.

 

[Christopher]

I can't imagine Wounded Sky taking place during the 5YM so in my mind I placed it post TMP when I read it the other week. I thought it was incredible, by the way.

That's the thing -- it isn't really part of either screen era, but represents its own alternative reality in which there was a period of transition between the two. The thing about the '80s books is that Trek continuity was so much more vaguely defined back then that novelists often interpreted the underlying universe in very interesting alternative ways. A lot of people like to try to force them into the modern understanding of Trek continuity and chronology -- and that's sort of what the continuation/reissues of the Rihannsu books tried to do -- but I prefer to take them as they are, as glimpses at an earlier era when so much more about the nature of the Trek universe was undecided and open to interpretation.

 

[Desert Kris]

I can't imagine Wounded Sky taking place during the 5YM so in my mind I placed it post TMP when I read it the other week. I thought it was incredible, by the way.

Wounded Sky is incredible, really feels true to the explorer spirit of ST. I kind of visualized it as the characters in their more colorful uniforms of the series, but the Enterprise in her refitted incarnation. I can only explain that in the sense of being inspired by the text of the book, and by the cover art of books like Chain of Attack and Dreams of the Raven.