Episodes that never happened

[Sophie74656]

People talk alot that voyager had too many episodes that never happened. So what are those episodes? I mean actual episodes where at the end NOBODY remembers what happened

Honestly there is only one, Year of Hell. Timeless comes close except for the fact that Harry gets a letter from himself so at the very least him and Janeway knoe about the alternate timeline.

 

[2takesfrakes]

"Unforgettable" might also qualify. Chakotay's finally found the perfect woman - everything he's been $aving himself up for - and it "never happened."

 

[Sophie74656]

"Unforgettable" might also qualify. Chakotay's finally found the perfect woman - everything he's been $aving himself up for - and it "never happened."

That's true. He's writing down his log by hand and might find it later at some point but nobody will actually remember those events.

 

[locutus101]

"Before and After" also never happened. It doesn't matter that people know about it. Knowing about it, doesn't make it real.
Janeway and B'lanna were no longer dead. Tom and Kes daughter no longer existed, etc...

 

[Sophie74656]

"Before and After" also never happened. It doesn't matter that people know about it. Knowing about it, doesn't make it real.
Janeway and B'lanna were no longer dead. Tom and Kes daughter no longer existed, etc...

This episode could be argued. As almost one that never happened. But the fact is that at the end people did know about it so it did happen.

My question was specifically episodes that truly didn't happen

 

[locutus101]

This episode could be argued. As almost one that never happened. But the fact is that at the end people did know about it so it did happen.

My question was specifically episodes that truly didn't happen

How does knowing about it make any difference? Kes' daughter never existed because in order for her to exist B'lanna had to die.

We know about fictions, that doesn't make them real. We remember (sometimes) our dreams. That doesn't make them real.

 

[Sophie74656]

How does knowing about it make any difference? Kes' daughter never existed because in order for her to exist B'lanna had to die.

We know about fictions, that doesn't make them real. We remember (sometimes) our dreams. That doesn't make them real.

Only because my question was about episodes that truly didn't happen. This one is close. Though I would have prefered if it didn't happen. Not a fan of this episode

 

[locutus101]

Only because my question was about episodes that truly didn't happen. This one is close. Though I would have prefered if it didn't happen. Not a fan of this episode

The only episode that "Truly" never happened the way you understand it is ENT' Twilight. Since in it, there isn't anybody left that remembers anything. I am almost positive that on voyager there is always someone that remembers something.

 

[Sophie74656]

The only episode that "Truly" never happened the way you understand it is ENT' Twilight. Since in it, there isn't anybody left that remembers anything. I am almost positive that on voyager there is always someone that remembers something.

Year of Hell. Absolutely nobody remembers that timeline

 

[locutus101]

Year of Hell. Absolutely nobody remembers that timeline

I don't get that obsession of yours with people remembering. There are events of the past that nobody remembers, most of them actually, does this mean that they never happened?

I am afraid that you don't realize that the memory engrams in somebody's brain have very little to do with the physicality of an actual event.

 

[stardream]

How about Time and Time Again from the First Season?

 

[locutus101]

How about Time and Time Again from the First Season?

Kes knew that something was amiss.

 

[Sophie74656]

How about Time and Time Again from the First Season?

Kes knee about the explosion at the end

 

[Lynx]

"Threshold" never happened.

It was a nightmare Janeway had after eating too much of Neelix's food.

I mean, Paris breaks the warp 10 barrier, gets ill and turns into a lizard. Then he breaks loose, abduct the Captain, flies away to a distant planet where the Captain also become a lizard. Then they have lizard children, are rescued, goes back to Voyager (wihout the lizard children), are restored to normal and no one talks about it or jokes about it later!

And yes, there is also an episode in season 6 that never happened.

 

[Ghislaine H. B. BRAEME]

It seems to me that it was each time that Janeway and her crew messed up with the alternate timeline (past, future...and parallel dimensions! )
-> in summary, a big part of the STV series has never existed!

The present feeds on past; the future feeds on past and on present but what happen if someone from this same future comes to change the past or the current status? Oh yes, it causes a terrible headache for the one who will have to think about this existential question!

More seriously, repeatedly the Doctor, 15 years older Chakotay / Harry and a future Janeway erased the future (and their own existences), in Future's End, Timeless, Endgame, etc...to save their younger doppelhangers from disasters but were they really managed to escape their fate?

 

[TonyaLang_SB118]

"Threshold" never happened.

It was a nightmare Janeway had after eating too much of Neelix's food.

I mean, Paris breaks the warp 10 barrier, gets ill and turns into a lizard. Then he breaks loose, abduct the Captain, flies away to a distant planet where the Captain also become a lizard. Then they have lizard children, are rescued, goes back to Voyager (wihout the lizard children), are restored to normal and no one talks about it or jokes about it later!

And yes, there is also an episode in season 6 that never happened.

I've never thought about it that way but, hell, this is true! At least Harry and B'Elanna would joke about this. Like...all the time.

I believe the producers just pretended this episode never happened because it was hella weird and illogical. Everybody jokes about it.

 

[stardream]

I wrote a Threshold fanfic about it all happening Tom's imagination. You see a friend of his on the Essex gave him some bottles of Romulan ale.....

 

[Lynx]

I wrote a Threshold fanfic about it all happening Tom's imagination. You see a friend of his on the Essex gave him some bottles of Romulan ale.....

Or maybe Neelix became jealous over Kes again and spiked Tom's coffee.....

 

[Catarina]

I say Before and After never happened. No one in episode YOH remembered the Krenim. Hold up, yeah it didn't exist, but part of it did. What happened when it 'reset'. If I recall at the end of the episode where it reset, they were just about to turn on the new lab and then that dude hailed he introduced himself "You've entered Krenim space. state your identity. (later) this region is in depute I suggest your avoid this space." he was benign so she let it pass. she didn't go 'wait kes warned us.' not even in the time line of the episode that later vanished.

 

[stardream]

If you watch The Year of Hell there is a time reset in the beginning where the Zahl disappears. Some believe that particular reset sent Voyager to a time where Kes did not warn them. I haven't thought it through personally ....
And then there is the idea that the whole of before and after took place in Kes' mind...including the warning.