Event alluded to by Bryan Fuller.
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No, those events happened 20 years before the first season episode "The Conscience of the King" according to on screen dialogue:
KIRK: History files. Subject, former Governor Kodos of Tarsus Four, also known as Kodos the Executioner. After that, background on actor Anton Karidian.
COMPUTER: Working. Kodos the Executioner, summary. Governor of Tarsus Four twenty Earth years ago. Invoked martial law. Slaughtered fifty percent of population Earth colony, that planet. Burned body found when Earth forces arrived. No positive identification. Case closed.
Fuller stated that Discovery would take place 10 years prior to Kirk's 5 year mission so it's not Tarsus IV.
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...George Kirk took his wife with him on the previous Vulcanian Expedition, and was busy with his duties while Junior Attache Sarek was busy with something else?
I'm not convinced that Fuller's 10 years translates to 3650 Earth days sharp. Might be a bit before "The Cage" rather than a bit after. But 20 years might be stretching it, yeah.
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I'm going to point out one little tidbit about the Klingon captain, and the various admirals:
Since the first season is going to be a serialized 'novel' in the telling, it stands to reason that these individuals will be recurring characters. The Klingon captain may end up being the antagonist or villain, or perhaps the alien that the lead has to learn to understand through learning to understand herself, as Fuller alluded to.
One of the interesting facets about how they are planning to do this series is that in a way, each 'episode' of the series is going to be an entire season long. For anyone who was a fan of Justified, this formula can work extremely well given the proper writers.
Since the first season is going to be a serialized 'novel' in the telling, it stands to reason that these individuals will be recurring characters. The Klingon captain may end up being the antagonist or villain, or perhaps the alien that the lead has to learn to understand through learning to understand herself, as Fuller alluded to.
One of the interesting facets about how they are planning to do this series is that in a way, each 'episode' of the series is going to be an entire season long. For anyone who was a fan of Justified, this formula can work extremely well given the proper writers.
I'm hoping that the Klingon Captain will be a young General Chang. He can even have a flat head, since his ridges weren't that pronounced anyway.
While the events of the series are set 10 years before Kirk took command of the Enterprise, does that mean that the event Fuller refers to need be 10 years prior? Can't it be even earlier but the effects of the event are still felt?
Kodos the Executioner sounds like the best bet I've heard so far. It doesn't quite fit, but maybe Fuller got the timeframe slightly wrong. It would be a boss setting for sure.
Another thing to consider is that it would also give them a chance to show us a young Kirk escaping Talos Four. Personally I don't care for that idea, but Kirk is arguably the most important character in Star Trek. It would serve as a nice little connection for the people who approach Discovery without having watched anything Trek-related but the new films.
Another thing to consider is that it would also give them a chance to show us a young Kirk escaping Talos Four. Personally I don't care for that idea, but Kirk is arguably the most important character in Star Trek. It would serve as a nice little connection for the people who approach Discovery without having watched anything Trek-related but the new films.
The entire show centers on people gossiping about Cadet Kirk fooling around with that little blonde lab technician.
Maybe Fuller means the hypothetical 5 year mission following TMP?
There is a reference in the DS9 episode "If Wishes Were Horses" that might apply.
During the timeframe that Fuller is describing, a Vulcan ship was lost while trying to seal a subspace rift in the Hanoli system. Instead of the rift being sealed, though, it expanded and swallowed not only the Vulcan ship but the entire star system. Perhaps this is the event (and what's on the other side of the rift) that the Discovery is going to explore.
During the timeframe that Fuller is describing, a Vulcan ship was lost while trying to seal a subspace rift in the Hanoli system. Instead of the rift being sealed, though, it expanded and swallowed not only the Vulcan ship but the entire star system. Perhaps this is the event (and what's on the other side of the rift) that the Discovery is going to explore.
I love that idea if only because it doesn't involve the weird 'battle' or 'war' and seems like an exploration.
I thought he said 'previous iterations of Trek' or something similar. But he's given so many extra hints and clarifications I've lost track.
So many hints and yet so little info. I'm gonna bookmark this thread and read it again in January. It's gonna be fun reading all those wild theories proven wrong, including my own.
Ten years before TOS could conceivably cover this. "The Cage" takes place in the mid-2250's.
Except Fuller says it takes place 10 years before Kirk's 5 year mission, not Pike's.
The Cage takes place, roughly, in 2254.
Ten years before Kirk took charge would be between 2254 and 2256.
And again, just the two solid facts we have thus far from Fuller's mouth. It's something in TOS, but it was only referenced, not actually seen. Meaning it's not something that played a key part in any of the stories.
Ten years before Kirk took charge would be between 2254 and 2256.
And again, just the two solid facts we have thus far from Fuller's mouth. It's something in TOS, but it was only referenced, not actually seen. Meaning it's not something that played a key part in any of the stories.
Since Fuller decided to retweet this, and especially this, perhaps he's hinting the first season will be Axanar, or at least the end of it. I'd rather not have a whole series centered around war again, but I'd be fine with it for the first season.
Something that fits time-wise although I'm not sure if the event would be a launching point for a new series...the attack on the USS Farragut by the cloud creature. In the Season 2 episode "Obsession" Kirk mentions it was "eleven years ago" so it would put it right in the correct time frame.
KIRK: Gentlemen, we are remaining in orbit until I find out more about those deaths, on my responsibility. I am perfectly aware that it might cost lives on Theta Seven. Kirk out. Autopsy report.
MCCOY: You saw their color. There wasn't a red corpuscle left in their bodies.
KIRK: Marks, cuts, incisions of any kind?
MCCOY: Not a one. What happened is medically impossible.
KIRK: I suggest you look at the record tapes of past similar occurrences. You'll find the USS Farragut lists casualties eleven years ago from exactly the same impossible causes.
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