Maybe a potential plot point for ST4? (someone wants to retrieve his karta for the knowledge of future events)
Property of Ambassador Spock [SPOILERS!!!]
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Make Spock's katra the same plot device as the sports almanac from BTTF? Yea, brother!
yes exactly! and whoever gets the katra would have access to his memories (recreations of key iconic scenes Trials and Tribulations/AGT/BTTF2 style)Make Spock's katra the same plot device as the sports almanac from BTTF? Yea, brother!
That picture was shown as yet another reminder that this isn't the real Star Trek we're watching.
No.
I would say yes according to the dialogue below. I interpret "dimensions" and "universes" as interchangeable.
KIRK: Are you machine or being?
GUARDIAN: I am both and neither. I am my own beginning, my own ending.
SPOCK: I see no reason for answers to be couched in riddles.
GUARDIAN: I answer as simply as your level of understanding makes possible.
SPOCK: A time portal, Captain. A gateway to other times and dimensions, if I'm correct.
GUARDIAN: As correct as possible for you. Your science knowledge is obviously primitive.
One is no more real than another. It is all big dollar make believe.
He didn't want to tip his hand.
Then too, I would have shown Quinto and Nimoy in a Mind Meld--in Into Darkness: Remember..
Quinto's Spock could ten explain concepts no one in the Kelvin timeline (and the younger audience) would know.
A lost opportunity.
The lights of Zetar didn't reach memory Alpha--the Doomsday Machine could have been intercepted before destruction of planets. etc.
Yes, it has occurred to me that it's at least possible Kirk has all of Spock Prime's memories locked away somewhere deep in his unconscious mind...
I pointed that out. Then someone else pointed out that we don't know how much Spock's body aged with the Genesis planet, as well. Physically, Spock could have been closer to 200. That's now part of my own head canon, anyway.
As an aside, I was re-watching my TOS bluray extras the other day, with Leonard Nimoy in it. At the time of the interview (I believe it was filmed around Sept 2003) he had this life clock going that said he had 5400 days left, which was almost 15 years. According to that life clock, he was supposed to live until 2018.
I just assumed it was a print of a file from the jellyfish's memory bank.
That sound's familiar!
I wonder who said that......Yeah, that is the obvious answer, really.
It's so odd how some Trek fans are in such a rush to nitpick, they forget that they are nitpicking something that is supposedly set in the future, and is beyond 1960s tech, and state if someone has a picture, and they didn't see it on their person originally, they must not have brought it with them and its some sort of canon violation. This ain't Gilligan's Island, folks!
The most logical answer to me is the Jellyfish data banks. But it could have been easily stored on some device Spock had, or hell, maybe they had a way to do a screen shot directly from Spock's mind! Who knows.
Sometimes some Star Trek fans can be so closed minded,it's irritating.
But let's just go with the Jellyfish explanation. The Jellyfish was a scientific vessel, very advanced even by the end of the 24th century standards, launched to try to save Romulus and piloted by Spock. Spock, at that point in 2387, the most celebrated living Vulcan, Starfleet officer, scientist, and ambassador, right? Why wouldn't he have all data in Starfleet's as well as Vulcan's archives available to him, and stored on his ship?
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And he would almost certainly have had at least portions of that data (including futureScotty's transwarp formula) backed up on something compact and easily portable - a 64-Gigaquad thumb drive*, or its 24th-century equivalent.
(* Imprinted: "Property of Vulcan Science Academy - Not to Be Removed from the Premises without Prior Authorization"?)
(* Imprinted: "Property of Vulcan Science Academy - Not to Be Removed from the Premises without Prior Authorization"?)
Maybe people are "chipped" in the 24th century. They have subcutaneous memory devices implanted for a variety of reasons. The first being a chronometer which they can easily access. This explains why we never see them wearing watches even though keeping track of time is essential (meet back at the beamout point in 3 hours.)
He probably planned to. But auto-erotic asphyxiation can have unintended consequences.
Old Spock insisted that his presence not be revealed to anyone else. His meld with Kirk was a focused transfer of the events leading up to their meeting. He only revealed himself to Young Spock after Kirk had been seated as captain of the Enterprise, setting the timeline back on its original path.
Because 25 years had already passed since Nero's original incursion. Twenty five years of the lives of multiple trillions of beings.
One man in one little ship. If he had gone back, assuming the Jellyfish could achieve that speed, what could he have done?
Well in The City On The Edge Of Forever, HUNDREDS of years had passed since McCoy went back in time and altered their original timeline. How many "lives of multiple trillions of beings" were changed when Spock and Kirk went back to restore their timeline? Spock didn't seem to have a problem with that.
