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Besides, it was only a couple of short scenes. It's not like Paramount/Bad Robot/et al turned it into "Gay Trek."

I don't like it when a show pushes a "type" character just to have it there and show how progressive they are. It feels forced. This was not that. It was what it was, and tastefully done.
It actually served a purpose in the movie. Sulu's family lived on the Yorktown and we care about Sulu, so there is increased tension during the climax. It works better than the vague notion of future Earth being attacked by actually giving some identity to the faces in the crowd. This is something that Trek usually fails at and they instead show a nameless kid drop a teddy bear or some generic attractive person looking scared.
 
And, ironically enough, it was one of my big complaints about the finale of Into Darkness when the Vengeance literally destroyed half of San Francisco and Sulu didn't really seem to react. We know Sulu is from San Francisco, he of all people should have been given some kind of a reaction.

So in a way that felt like a way they may have been making up for that previous films failing to really drive home the stakes and the tension of the situation.
 
I think it's relatively safe to assume that Prime-verse Sulu was straight all along, played by a gay actor.
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Don't forget in "Star Trek V," Sulu was admiring the backside of the Klingon woman. That's the first thing I think of when I hear the phrase "Sulu's sexuality."
 
It actually served a purpose in the movie. Sulu's family lived on the Yorktown and we care about Sulu, so there is increased tension during the climax. It works better than the vague notion of future Earth being attacked by actually giving some identity to the faces in the crowd. This is something that Trek usually fails at and they instead show a nameless kid drop a teddy bear or some generic attractive person looking scared.

When I saw the movie I wasn't aware they were making Sulu gay. I saw his husband and daughter and figured it was his brother and niece or something.

It would have been more interesting to have another character turn out to be gay instead of Sulu. Making Sulu gay just because the original actor the portrayed him is, is kind of lame.
 
Don't forget in "Star Trek V," Sulu was admiring the backside of the Klingon woman. That's the first thing I think of when I hear the phrase "Sulu's sexuality."
Maybe he was thinking: "I wish I could get my ass that firm!" Maybe he was playing along in hopes of a threesome with his buddy Chekov, his earlier plan to seduce him by getting them "lost in the woods" together having been thwarted... :lol:
 
Besides, it was only a couple of short scenes. It's not like Paramount/Bad Robot/et al turned it into "Gay Trek."

I don't like it when a show pushes a "type" character just to have it there and show how progressive they are. It feels forced. This was not that. It was what it was, and tastefully done.
I haven't seen it yet, so no comment on how it was portrayed. The relationship has certainly been well received, so I'm hopeful I'll enjoy the movie.

When I saw the movie I wasn't aware they were making Sulu gay. I saw his husband and daughter and figured it was his brother and niece or something.

It would have been more interesting to have another character turn out to be gay instead of Sulu. Making Sulu gay just because the original actor the portrayed him is, is kind of lame.
It makes sense. It does feel like a little pandering, and that is probably why Takei criticized it, but otherwise it seems to have been regarded as a good move.

And the less said about Into Darkness the better.
 
I haven't seen it yet, so no comment on how it was portrayed. The relationship has certainly been well received, so I'm hopeful I'll enjoy the movie.


It makes sense. It does feel like a little pandering, and that is probably why Takei criticized it, but otherwise it seems to have been regarded as a good move.
I thought it worked well in context of the movie, and it certainly was subtle and natural and not like anything was being awkwardly shoehorned in or hammered upon inordinately. For all the press it generated, it was really just a brief moment, and as others have said it served the plot without being a major plot point itself. As for Takei's objection, a perception of "pandering" may have played into it, but it seemed to me that it was largely based on Roddenberry not having conceived of the character that way and Takei himself, despite being gay, having put a lot of work into playing Sulu as straight all those years. It was a definitely a change to the character, not something that just falls in line with what we'd known of him before, but that sort of thing of course is in play to one degree or another for most or all of the characters in the reboot.
 
When I saw the movie I wasn't aware they were making Sulu gay. I saw his husband and daughter and figured it was his brother and niece or something.

It would have been more interesting to have another character turn out to be gay instead of Sulu. Making Sulu gay just because the original actor the portrayed him is, is kind of lame.
He was probably the only option really. Spock and Uhura are in a relationship, Kirk is best known in the popular culture as sleeping with green women and McCoy is divorced and talks about his ex-wife. Really all that's left is Sulu, Chekov and Scotty. Scotty is now BFFs with a wacky alien and no one wants to imagine them as a couple, Chekov is a wacky accent pretending to be a character and any possible mate for him is going to have to be so Russian that Putin would cry tears of joy to see it. Sulu is more or less normal, so it probably works better.
 
Personally, I have no issue with This Sulu being gay when the other was not. We are talking a whole other reality here, things in this one are not the same and the changes started well before Spock showed up. This is a setting that is close, but not the same, to me, the Franklin proves the time line drifted much farther back. We see this in comics and the like all the time, characters born as another sex. So why is it so hard to understand that some folks might be born gay in the Kelvin reality when they never were in the prime reality?
 
I agree, the gay thing was done well by being portrayed as subtle and natural.

Earlier this year I watched the movie Sedona, which portrayed a gay relationship as subtle and natural. This relationship quickly became obvious, but they didn't hit you over the head with it.
 
When I saw the movie I wasn't aware they were making Sulu gay. I saw his husband and daughter and figured it was his brother and niece or something.

You weren't looking closely because the way they were walking together makes it very clear.

Aren't we way off topic, here?
 
So, to recap:
First you make a weird, vague post that makes little sense to people here and for which you provided no context to aid interpretation. In addition to that the post could be read in a way that makes it look pretty bigoted so people ask you what it is you actually mean, hoping it's not what they thought it was.

So now you had the opportunity to come back and address that by explaining what it was you really meant, because obviously you're shocked that your poorly worded post could be read in such a fashion. Or are you?

Oh, but that's not what you ended up doing:
Instead of addressing your post, explaining it and providing some context, you come back and write a dismissive and condescending post in response to everybody who, for some inexplicable reason (as if...), didn't manage to really understand what your previous vague and nonsensical post really meant.

You know, the post that still makes little sense to people. For good reasons.

Please tell me you are not just trying to "out" some guy who disagrees with your 'belief system' just so you can ridicule and debase him/her for his/her opinions.
 
Sulu's fitness buff.

Vunderful muscles.

What makes the scene is the way she appears to know, and not give a monkeys or be faintly flattered. Shes very much 'behold my fine Klingon arse, I am rightly proud, you may weep'
Which, oddly enough, seems to have been the design thinking behind the USS Discovery.
 
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