Star Trek Discovery

[Mach5]

The nuTrek designs are modern and bad.

All of them? I had my issues with the redesigned Enterprise, but the Enterprise A pretty much dealt with all of them. The bridge looks a bit too cluttered for my taste, but the basic layout is great. The corridors, the brig and the warp core (from STID) all look fantastic, IMO.

 

[drt]

Just read this article and thought I would share.

‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Cast: New Ship Captain May Be A Black Woman, Bryan Fuller Hints

That seems to track with the comments he made years ago about liking the idea of Angela Basset as a captain.

 

[mos6507]

All of them? I had my issues with the redesigned Enterprise, but the Enterprise A pretty much dealt with all of them. The bridge looks a bit too cluttered for my taste, but the basic layout is great. The corridors, the brig and the warp core (from STID) all look fantastic, IMO.

The problems (limiting it to the exteriors other than the shuttlebay):

1. The oversized nacelles.
2. The bow-legged nacelle struts.
3. The pinched shuttlebay with intentional diagonal beam "obstacle course" inside (ridiculous, parody-grade design)
4. The neck is too pushed-back (gives it the hairdryer look).
5. The overall scale issues (it's too big)

These flaws have been, of course, debated to death since 2009. Either people see this or they don't. I mean, I guess some people actually like Rebecca Black's Friday.

The earlier ships (like the Kelvin) are a little better than the JJ Prise. They have sort of a Franz Joseph kitbash feel to them.

 

[Mach5]

7 AM waking up in the morning gotta get fresh gotta go downstairs
gotta have my bowl, gotta have cereal blah blah...

I love that song. Colbert did the cover, for god's sake. I mean it's shit, but it's catchy and fun. And Rebecca Black did not deserve the bulling.

• The oversized nacelles.

• The bow-legged nacelle struts.

• The pinched shuttlebay with intentional diagonal beam "obstacle course" inside (ridiculous, parody-grade design)

• The neck is too pushed-back (gives it the hairdryer look).

• The overall scale issues (it's too big)

Eh, I didn't really mind any of this. The nacelles may have been too big, and too close together, but Enterprise A fixes that.

 

[ancient]

Just read this article and thought I would share.

‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Cast: New Ship Captain May Be A Black Woman, Bryan Fuller Hints

A black lady? Is this her?:

Spoiler

 

[RAMA]

Looking at the All-Access app today..this came up. This is the subscription screen. Ready for January 2017.

 

[urbandefault]

Bryan Fuller and Heather Kadin, two of the executive producers on Star Trek: Discovery, confirmed during theStar Trek Comic-Con panel that Discovery would continue the Star Trek tradition of political leftism . . .

This is probably the writer's words, but overtly declaring "political leftism" is a misstep, in my opinion.

There are other things I've read, including stating which 'verse the show will occupy, that might accidentally bite them in the ass.

You can't please everyone, and they probably won't. But hey, that's Star Trek.

YMMV.

 

[Jedi Marso]

Bryan Fuller and Heather Kadin, two of the executive producers on Star Trek: Discovery, confirmed during the Star Trek Comic-Con panel that Discovery would continue the Star Trek tradition of political leftism . . .

They better be very careful where they go with this. If they are talking about the sorts of idealism that Trek has always espoused, that's fine. But if this show goes full-retard-social-justice-warrior it's going to go down hard.

 

[BigJake]

They will presumably want the show to have a future audience among a generation whose definition of "progressive" isn't stuck in the Sixties. So I predict much, much wailing and gnashing of teeth from the cohort that unironically uses terms like "social justice warrior," has screaming fits about women in Ghostbuster outfits and whose opinion is generally not as important as it imagines. All to the good.

 

[Pondslider]

For anyone who wants to hear Bryan Fuller's comments about the new show at SDCC The Official Podcast Engage put the audio of the whole 50th Anniversay panel up. He never said the words "political leftism" or anything other than being true to Gene Roddenberry's vision. It's a really good listen.

 

[CorporalClegg]

So he may as well have said nothing at all.

 

[Set Harth]

But if this show goes full-retard-social-justice-warrior it's going to go down hard.

You never... ah, screw it.

 

[Mudd]

Pretty much the only way DSC is guaranteed to be bad and fail is if the producers take seriously the preferences of fans who think the new Trek movies are bad. It's like trying to win a national election by pandering to old white guys - might have been viable twenty years ago.

 

[Pondslider]

So he may as well have said nothing at all.

Overall it just sounded like he got it and that was encouraging. The panel wasn't really about that though. It wasn't groundbreaking or anything but it was fun to hear some of the actors talk about Trek etc.

 

[Kemaiku]

But if this show goes full-retard-social-justice-warrior.

Sorry other groups existing other than you, and them finally being represented in television hurts your life so badly.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Personally, I'd love it if Star Trek own up and actually did some real social-justice championing.

This so-called "political-leftism" has been nothing but feel-good, hallmark social progressiveism packaged and branded for white, upper middle-class suburbia. It's generally not very philosophical or provocative, and the conceit is usually obtuse, non-committal and safe.

 

[Long Syntax]

Sorry other groups existing other than you, and them finally being represented in television hurts your life so badly.

No, the man (or woman - I don't know) only said if they go full out "...full-retard-social-justice-warrior..." which isn't far from my position - focus on great stories. If there is social commentary in the process, fine - and it doesn't matter if I agree with that commentary or not. I've watched every single ST ever made and I've never had a problem with it. I believe having social justice be the main focus, rather than just great stories (and let the chips fall where they may), is not good for the franchise.

 

[galad2003]

The triangular hull section needs to go. Nacelles and Saucer looks fine.

CBS should have taken their time to do a better teaser. Looks rushed and amateurish.

 

[Spider]

I can't believe they'll go "...full-retard-social-justice-warrior..." because they'll lose a huge audience with that crap. I'm sure they'll do some social commentary, it's Star Trek, people expect that.

 

[Chekov's Phaser]

What does "full-retard social justice warrior" even mean?