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Which they did. Some came straight forward, others slammed into the side.

No. They enveloped "Enterprise" as a single body initially, and then started to attack from sides, only after they enveloped the ship. Before that, all drones moved in dence formation, with the ridiculously small volume.
 
No. They enveloped "Enterprise" as a single body initially, and then started to attack from sides, only after they enveloped the ship. Before that, all drones moved in dence formation, with the ridiculously small volume.

The swarm didn't envelope the ship. It formed tendrils from quite a distance away and lanced into different parts of the ship at the same time. The brunt of the first impact being on the deflector dish.
 
The problem is, that the bioweapon worked TOO FAST. It would not be able to spread - i.e. as contagious weapon it's useless. The real bioweapon was considered effective exactly because it took a lot of time to kill the target, and the target could infect others. With the Kraal bioweapon, nothing like that could possibly happens.
I got the impression that a ginormous amount of those black globules would have spread throughout the Yorktown atmosphere, not that a person would be infected, and then infect another person, and so on. This is magical alien technology.

Kor
 
I got the impression that a ginormous amount of those black globules would have spread throughout the Yorktown atmosphere, not that a person would be infected, and then infect another person, and so on. This is magical alien technology.

Kor

Not Genesis but Armageddon?
 
Well, everyone have different tastes, you know) Some peoples like more "sci" than "fi") Some - the opposite. And that's pretty good for me)
 
Well, everyone have different tastes, you know) Some peoples like more "sci" than "fi") Some - the opposite. And that's pretty good for me)

The "sci" in Trek has always been highly questionable. IMO, it's better not to bog the story down with gibberish technobabble explanations.

I loved it when Spock was trying to give a detailed technical explanation of how to disrupt the swarm, but Uhura interrupted him and boiled it down to real-world terms.

Kor
 
Here's the thing. While they threw a bunch of tech talk on the shows, the vast majority of the time it was nonsense. A good example of this are the self replicating mines from DS9. The tech is magic, just dressed up with scientific sounding dressing.
 
Here's the thing. While they threw a bunch of tech talk on the shows, the vast majority of the time it was nonsense. A good example of this are the self replicating mines from DS9. The tech is magic, just dressed up with scientific sounding dressing.

Actually, the self-replicating weapon systems are within the our current capabilities. The whole RepRap project is based upon the idea of self-replicating prototyper.

You may point out that the mere idea of mines in space are highly dubious, but the DS9 case there was the "narrowness in space" - i.e. wormhole - and in that particular case, the self-replicating minefield, provided with large ammount of matter to work, could really be the effective solution. The ships were forced to move at narrow tunnel, on low relative velocities.
 
But it would have to carry the matter/ordinance to create new mines. It can't create those out of thin air.

Er, Bajoran wormhole:

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Clouds of dust, gas particles, ect. ect. ect.

And each Dominion ship destroyed just provide more raw materials.
 
Clouds of dust, gas particles, ect. ect. ect.

That's if there sitting right at the wormhole. Which would make no sense because you would take a chance of collapsing it, which they didn't want to do.

Further out those materials would just be too sparse.
 
That's if there sitting right at the wormhole. Which would make no sense because you would take a chance of collapsing it, which they didn't want to do.

All this matherial must go from inside the wormhole. Recall the insides - they are, actually, not absolutely clean. It seems that quite a lot of dust are trapped inside wormhole.

Further out those materials would just be too sparse.

Please! They have Bussard scoops for centuries! Even just in form of dust and gas, the wormhole probably contain trillions tons of dispersed matter. More than enough for mines to work with.
 
These reboot movies are playing hard and fast with science for the sake of pacing and character. So while I could wonder if all the holes being punched in Yorktown should really be sucking the environment out of, say, the hole the Franklin punched in the waterway to get to the surface, I have a simple mental explanation that doesn't get my Trek head in a knot:

Force fields.

And that is enough for me.

I don't think there could be any way to focus more on the villain out of this movie without taking away somehow from the focus on our characters. Doing so could have given us another Nemesis moment with a mopey antagonist chewing the scenery. I think how they handled Krall, and how they revealed Edison, was the best way to handle an antagonist whom they don't intend on returning for future installments.
 
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