Will there be a Star Trek IV?
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I believe it depends on the expectations that Paramount has for the film. If it meets those expectations, there might be another film.
About the point on people's perceptions of space exploration and colonization, as I read those comments, other comments by Buzz Aldrin came to my mind. He said in National Geographic, June 2016
We are stagnating on Earth. We are reverting to the past. We are not pioneering. We are not looking forward. And if we do not explore, we will expire.
About the point on people's perceptions of space exploration and colonization, as I read those comments, other comments by Buzz Aldrin came to my mind. He said in National Geographic, June 2016
We are stagnating on Earth. We are reverting to the past. We are not pioneering. We are not looking forward. And if we do not explore, we will expire.
And you forgot the most important ingredient: There is ACTION!
Star Trek, especially with TNG, is not known for action. One of the main reasons TNG failed on the big screen is that they were trying to transport a series that was, well, 'talky' and put them in primarily action oriented scenarios.
Season 1 of TNG was underwhelming, they didn't actually hit their stride until BOBW. I watched the pilot, and barely watched until midway through season 2. After that the writers finally had defined the characters enough for it to be watchable.
The best thing about TOS in my opinion was just how defined the characters were defined right from the start. All the other series took at least a season to really lock the character's individual voices... Just my opinion.
^^Indeed, the maxim regarding the spin-offs is that they don't get good until the third season. Which was taken way too literally with Enterprise, in that I don't think anyone even bothered to put any effort into the show until the third season thinking "no one eve likes the first two anyway."
And it is sort of ironic, TOS is the complete opposite to the other Treks in that the first two seasons are the good ones and the third is where it turns to crap.
And it is sort of ironic, TOS is the complete opposite to the other Treks in that the first two seasons are the good ones and the third is where it turns to crap.
Well, this is a non-starter of an opinion. We're in the television Renaissance, man. I'm not saying you're totally alone in your opinion, but there's probably a lot of tumbleweeds rolling by and crickets chirping around you.
I don't care if anybody agrees with me on that point or not, but I can tell you my opinion on the subject was formed when I took a look at the shows I was following and realized that every single one was a remake of a show I enjoyed as a kid. Not an original show in the bunch. And, the "original" shows I attempted to watch just didn't appeal to me for whatever reason.
Why do you think we're in a television renaissance? I don't see it.
I'm hoping there is a fourth cause i would like to see one to two more movies detailing the five-year mission (I'm hoping for 2 cause then each movie could detailing each year (2264 and 2265).
Really expected to scroll through this thread and find you only posted a simple, "Yes," and that's all -- to which I agree one hundred percent. But I guess you were in a chatty mood.
Game of Thrones
Breaking Bad
The Walking Dead
True Detective
House of Cards
The Leftovers
House
Arrested Development
Downton Abbey
The Wire
The Sopranos
Archer
Hannibal
Community
Parks & Recreation
30 Rock
The Good Wife
The Americans
Justified
The Shield
Sherlock
Mad Men
Veep
Silicon Valley
Louie
Fargo
Lost
Person of Interest
The Office
Deadwood
Friday Night Lights
Curb Your Enthusiasm
Dexter
True Blood
The Venture Brothers
Bob's Burgers
Eastbound & Down
The West Wing
Dollhouse
Futurama
Survivor
24
Chapelle's Show
Blackish
Elementary
The Colbert Report
The Late Show with Stephen Colbert
The Daily Show with Jon Stewart / Trevor Noah
The Nightly Show with Larry Wilmore
Last Week Tonight with Jon Oliver
Full Frontal with Samantha Bee
Real Time with Bill Maher
Boston Legal
South Park
Mythbusters
Sons of Anarchy
Heroes (Season 1)
Portlandia
Boardwalk Empire
Rome
Spartacus
The 4400
Pushing Daisies
Weeds
Star Wars: The Clone Wars
Star Wars: Rebels
Limitless
Journeyman
Forever
New Amsterdam
Gotham
The Flash
Arrow
Supergirl
The 100
Except for a few that had earlier incarnations, most of those are original properties that have aired within the past ten years from a wide variety of genres. Most are critically acclaimed, award winning, or well-rated, but I included some that weren't but that I watched anyway to flesh out the types of shows for you. If you think there's nothing original on TV you just haven't tried to look.
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I can't speak for him but there has never been a time before the last decade where there was so much high quality programming on television (though this includes paid cable and online streaming--not just broadcast networks)--production values, acting talent, sophisticated writing, intriguing stories and topics. Of course, not all current TV is excellent, or even good. Much of it is mediocre or downright bad. It's not so much that there was nothing of quality in the past (of course there was--back to the early days of television, as well as not so far back--I consider the Wonder Years one of the best TV shows ever made, across all genres, for example, and while it ain't from the Eisenhower era, it ain't last week's brand new thing either). What I would argue is while the worst TV of today may well be poorer than the worst of previous eras, the best of today is better than just about anything in earlier eras--and there is a lot more of it (The Wonder Years had few peers for excellence, IMO, while the number of excellent shows today is far greater--so much so that I can't keep up with all of it, something I had little trouble doing some decades ago).
Only among those I've seen:
The Wire
Deadwood
Breaking Bad
Mad Men
The Hour
Person of Interest
House of Cards
Rome
Game of Thrones
Downton Abbey
(of these, the top three on the list stand out as the best I've seen since The Wonder Years, while the rest are all very good to excellent, if not at the very top--to me--and I've left out many)
I watch more than those and enjoy them too. But they are not up to the quality of the list I've made (and there are doubtless many others equally deserving I've not seen).
It used to be movies had all the best--best actors, best production values, etc., while TV was second or third class. Not anymore. Movies might have the edge in visual production values, but sophisticated story telling and nuanced acting is found at least as often, if not more so, on TV than in the movies. This situation was exceedingly rare 15+ years ago.
Jessica Jones/Daredevil/Agent Carter
Mr Robot
The Affair
Wayward Pines
Gravity Falls
Masters of Sex
Alphas
Tyrant
Dead Set
Misfits
I-Zombie
Kings
Almighty Johnsons
Underbelly
Life on Mars/Ashes to Ashes
American Crime Story
Prey
Banshee
Ash Vs The Evil Dead
Vikings
Being Human
Parades End
Clever Man
Strike Back
Les Revenants
Black Mirror
Puella Magi Madoka Magica
Rake
Bloodline
Empire
Halt and Catch Fire
Spartacus
Kill la kill
Roots
Louie
Over the Garden Wall
The Pacific
Lucifer
...
With such limited options available, I honestly don't know how we cope.
Another big difference between bad television now and bad television then, is that once upon a time the vast majority of the 'bad', the mediocre, and the failures would literally be wiped from existance. Only the notable were preserved, and the rest have just been...forgotten.
Now? Everything from cheap-ass reality shows that only ever aired in one country, to never-aired failed pilots, are archived on DVD or the Internet. The sheer amount if shit produced has probably always been fairly consistent, it's just that now it's a lot easier to notice.
Mr Robot
The Affair
Wayward Pines
Gravity Falls
Masters of Sex
Alphas
Tyrant
Dead Set
Misfits
I-Zombie
Kings
Almighty Johnsons
Underbelly
Life on Mars/Ashes to Ashes
American Crime Story
Prey
Banshee
Ash Vs The Evil Dead
Vikings
Being Human
Parades End
Clever Man
Strike Back
Les Revenants
Black Mirror
Puella Magi Madoka Magica
Rake
Bloodline
Empire
Halt and Catch Fire
Spartacus
Kill la kill
Roots
Louie
Over the Garden Wall
The Pacific
Lucifer
...
With such limited options available, I honestly don't know how we cope.
Another big difference between bad television now and bad television then, is that once upon a time the vast majority of the 'bad', the mediocre, and the failures would literally be wiped from existance. Only the notable were preserved, and the rest have just been...forgotten.
Now? Everything from cheap-ass reality shows that only ever aired in one country, to never-aired failed pilots, are archived on DVD or the Internet. The sheer amount if shit produced has probably always been fairly consistent, it's just that now it's a lot easier to notice.
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http://www.treknews.net/2016/07/14/jj-abrams-fourth-star-trek-film-is-happening/
Star trek 4 is almost a certainty
JJ ABrams
“It’s hopefully something that we are figurative minutes away from talking about. The answer is 100% yes and it’s incredibly exciting.
Star trek 4 is almost a certainty
JJ ABrams
“It’s hopefully something that we are figurative minutes away from talking about. The answer is 100% yes and it’s incredibly exciting.
i'm hoping in ST4, we get a scene akin to TFF where Kirk is uphappy with his chair and McCoy is like "what's the matter Jim" and Kirk is like "i miss my old chair."
thank the FSM! that's good news
That reminds me, I saw something on Youtube where Adam Savage was comparing the TOS captain's chair (he made a replica) with the NuTrek chair (he sat in it at the Beyond fan event). He talked about how the chair really affects your physical performance: all Shatner's famous chair poses were sort of based on what the chair shape made comfortable to do, while the Nu chair is wider but shallower, meaning the captain tends to be leaning forward (or hanging a leg over one of the chair-arms).
If the current film series continues, it would be nice to see a story looking at the after-effects of the 5-year mission: post-traumatic stress, restlessness for adventure, trouble fitting into civilian society. Of course, the story wouldn't be about this stuff; there would also be an external threat to confront. And in the end they'd get a fresh mission.
I guess there will be a XIV and apparently the script is already done and apparent Chris Hemsworth maybe reprising his role as George Kirk, Sr. I wonder if they will have Temporal Agent Daniels (Matt Winston) interact with Jim Kirk and be like "you need to put right what went wrong." (yes that was a subtle nod to Scott Bakula (Jonathan Archer)'s role as Sam Beckett on Quantum Leap).
No.
Guys, there is no such script and those talks are just a friendly chat about the hype the movie is *finally* generating. Sadly, Paramount is no Disney and they don't have a well oiled sequel machine or a big picture where they want to take Star Trek to.
Additionally, Paramount is financially distressed which is why they were trying to sell a minority stake of the studio to some passive investor so they could finance some more movies. This year has been terrible for them and you could possibly imagine why they are promoting Beyond this much as they really need a hit to make those numbers green again.
Additionally, Paramount is financially distressed which is why they were trying to sell a minority stake of the studio to some passive investor so they could finance some more movies. This year has been terrible for them and you could possibly imagine why they are promoting Beyond this much as they really need a hit to make those numbers green again.
damn. i was all hyped up.
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