Has anyone seen this? Flying NCC1701 D

[Gingerbread Demon]

I just found this via youtube.

Brilliant model just a slight shame he had problems with controlling it in flight. I don't know how you could fix that but props for such a brilliant effort.

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[rhubarbodendron]

The prob is that it's not aerodynamic at all. All the Enterprises are designed for a flight in space where there is no air drag. In an atmosphere they will inevitably get almost uncontrollable.
I'd say that the best model for flights in our atmosphere might be a Kingon Negh'Var Class or a simple Bird Of Prey. Both have sleek bodies and wide wings that are drawn downward, which makes them resemble birds gliding on the air.

Compare the lower specimen in this pic of flying geese with a bird of prey:

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

The prob is that it's not aerodynamic at all. All the Enterprises are designed for a flight in space where there is no air drag. In an atmosphere they will inevitably get almost uncontrollable.
I'd say that the best model for flights in our atmosphere might be a Kingon Negh'Var Class or a simple Bird Of Prey. Both have sleek bodies and wide wings that are drawn downward, which makes them resemble birds gliding on the air.

Compare the lower specimen in this pic of flying geese with a bird of prey:

You're quite correct. There are models of BOPs that fly and they seem to handle better then Enterprise shaped models. There's a few on youtube.

 

[publiusr]

It helps to actually have wings...

 

[rhubarbodendron]

true That's why nature invented them for planetarian flight [or is it "planetary" ????]

I think the makers of Trek gave that problem some thought as well. Hence the option of detaching the saucer section. In an atmosphere it'd behave similar to a frisbee disk while the rest of the ship would have a more streamlined shape and propably be able to fly better as well. It might be interesting to try that theory on a disassembled model.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

I wouldn't mind an RC BOP

 

[rhubarbodendron]

I wouldn't mind a real one =)

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

I wouldn't mind a real one =)

Real one would be cool just put jet engines into the nacelles ... I don't think it would be that hard to make an actual BOP

 

[rhubarbodendron]

Buiding it would be no prob, I daresay. But jet engines are not exactly environmentally friendly. We'd have to invent a clean means of propulsion that's not dangerous. A difficult task. Solar panels are too weak for the mass of a BOP and "normal" electricity is made in power plants fired by fossile fuels. Pretty dirty stuff and bad for the climate. Water power destroys nature (have you ever seen the Hoover Dam from a plane? Horrible! Huuuuuge river going in, a trickle like a rat's pee coming out). Wind power sounds good at first but creates stress for plants and animals due to the constant low-frequency thrumming that both air and soil transmit over a considerable distance.
Chemical energy and nuclear power offer lots of difficulties with the disposal of waste products.

Now, if there was a way to turn stupidity into propulsion, every vehicle containing a politician would practically be a perpetuum mobile

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Buiding it would be no prob, I daresay. But jet engines are not exactly environmentally friendly. We'd have to invent a clean means of propulsion that's not dangerous. A difficult task. Solar panels are too weak for the mass of a BOP and "normal" electricity is made in power plants fired by fossile fuels. Pretty dirty stuff and bad for the climate. Water power destroys nature (have you ever seen the Hoover Dam from a plane? Horrible! Huuuuuge river going in, a trickle like a rat's pee coming out). Wind power sounds good at first but creates stress for plants and animals due to the constant low-frequency thrumming that both air and soil transmit over a considerable distance.
Chemical energy and nuclear power offer lots of difficulties with the disposal of waste products.

Now, if there was a way to turn stupidity into propulsion, every vehicle containing a politician would practically be a perpetuum mobile

Yeah beyond some kind of jet engine in the nacelles I don't know what one could use. In theory you could build I think some kind of customised aircraft that would look like a BOP without much difficulty, For practicality you'd have to change one or two things but I suspect the basic shape could be kept. I think the design would work.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Speaking of the BOP haha this does look like that but on water.

http://breakingdefense.com/2016/06/navys-klingon-bird-of-prey-passes-key-test-lcs-trimaran/

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Brilliant model just a slight shame he had problems with controlling it in flight. I don't know how you could fix that but props for such a brilliant effort.

You could make it a flyable drone, though it would have to have air channels running through it top to bottom to house the rotors, so it wouldn't be an accurate Enterprise model.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

You could make it a flyable drone, though it would have to have air channels running through it top to bottom to house the rotors, so it wouldn't be an accurate Enterprise model.

Haha that would be fun to fly.....Hmmmmmmmm I like the design

 

[rhubarbodendron]

Speaking of the BOP haha this does look like that but on water. http://breakingdefense.com/2016/06/navys-klingon-bird-of-prey-passes-key-test-lcs-trimaran/

LOL indeed. Looks a bit fat, though

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

LOL indeed. Looks a bit fat, though

Yeah I woudn't want to take that boat racing...... Looks a bit slow.

Remember the giant flop that was the stealth boat? Ended up as a prop in a Bond movie because no one wanted it?

 

[rhubarbodendron]

really? Heehee, I love that!. A definite proof that life has a sense of humour.
A warship needn't be fast, she only needs to be able to smash everything she encounters into tiny bits. And since that one is built as a trimaran, she might actually be rather quick for her size.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

really? Heehee, I love that!. A definite proof that life has a sense of humour.
A warship needn't be fast, she only needs to be able to smash everything she encounters into tiny bits. And since that one is built as a trimaran, she might actually be rather quick for her size.

This is the beast I was talking about. I'm not 100% sure but I think it was a bit of a flop.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stealth_ship

The Sea Shadow was the design that was in the Bond movie Tomorrow Never Dies

 

[publiusr]

It didn't help the rep of my state when this happened:
https://www.wired.com/2011/06/shipbuilder-blames-navy-as-brand-new-warship-disintegrates/

Sea Dragon would actually have been an easier build: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Dragon_(rocket)
http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com...-113wip-real-scale-sea-dragon-034-2016-07-12/

But no...

Sea Dragon to scale. Thanks Masao:
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Masao/media/ConSeadragon.jpg.html

 

[sojourner]

^What does Sea Dragon have to do with this topic at all?

This is the beast I was talking about. I'm not 100% sure but I think it was a bit of a flop.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stealth_ship

They just christened the second one and a third is under construction. The only way it is considered a "flop" is in it's cost.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Speaking of the BOP haha this does look like that but on water.

http://breakingdefense.com/2016/06/navys-klingon-bird-of-prey-passes-key-test-lcs-trimaran/

Here are some more BoP-like designs, with the latter actually being named the Bird-of-Prey because of its resemblance to the Klingon ship:

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Bird_of_Prey