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Yes, but we're not in the prime universe, now are we? This is the alternate universe/timeline. This is still relevant. What happens in the prime universe? Irrelevant in these films.
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Yes, Nero went first. You said Spock went first: http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/do-y...more-prominently.277388/page-42#post-11648974
"We" are in the Prime universe. The alternate is not, by definition. I think you meant we are not viewing Prime in the new movies, but I just wanted to clarify the existential "we" thing.
Interviews are not canon.
Yes, the quotation I choose to post does say that I was wrong. This is a admission on my part, mea culpa.
It also says you were wrong about Spock choosing "to follow Nero into the altered timeline/universe."
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I'm fine with that.
In my headcanon, Old Spock and Nero are from a different reality (which also includes the events of Enterprise), which created an alternate timeline in their universe, thus leaving the Primeverse unaffected by anything that transpires. It makes me happy.
As such Sulu isn't gay (thus keeping in line with Mr Takei's wishes), although there was that one time at band camp...
This would have the advantage of leaving "old Spock" alive and well in the prime universe. And also Romulas intact, and available to continue to create mischief.
Somewhat similar, my headcanon has the Abrams-verse already a pre-existing separate alternate universe prior to Nero's arrival. This would explain the many differences we see/hear, I never bought into the explanation that there would be that many changes stemming from the attack on a single Starfleet vessel.
Starfleet vessels get attacked and destroyed on a semi-regular basis.
And isn't that the important part?
Did you actually think someone out there was confused?
Yes. See above. Not so much confusion as denial where they want reality in hindsight to overrule the writers' intentions of the fiction at the time.Did you actually think someone out there was confused?
The creators did set the show in our Universe. I am willing to forgive and ignore the predictions which did not come true. I praise them for the courage to commit to making predictions for the purpose of cautionary tales, knowing some will work and some won't in retrospect.
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I don't think he was confused.
So, your last few posts didn't have to be made?
Let not forget that this thread isn't exclusively about the Abram timeline movies, but also about the up coming series. So the timeline in discussion isn't automatically that of the Abrams'.
I've read nothing indicating that the next series is set in the Abrams-verse.
Currently it's in Schrodinger's Universe
"Confused" was your word - not mine. Nice try.
You seemed to agree.
Did you actually think someone out there was confused?
1. Nero goes through creating a new timeline where spock doesn't follow him. Then back in the prime timeline Spock follows Nero, creating a third time line where Nero is already there.
Or...
2. The Guardian of Forever, had naturally(?) formed temporal shields, or the Guardian was just protecting itself from it's own fiddling... Like the Temporal shields in Voyager year of Hell, or the tachyon enhanced deflector in DS9 Future Tense.... A novel (First Federation) claimed that massive cosmic events or locations like black holes (Oh? Suns? If suns are immune to the events of time travel that bares a little thinking about.) disturb gravity and magnetism on such a level that close proximity to a stellar event, like a fake red matter black hole eating a planet, are natural temporal shields... Therefore Spock could follow Nero to exactly the same new timeline if it was protected from the time hole it was entering by the time hole it was entering.
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