The merged and improved (?) KIC 8462852 thread
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Dirty boy... 
I remember it well. It was the moment in my childhood I stopped taking "Power Rangers" seriously
^ 
Wait, aren't you my age? So when PR premiered in August 1993 you were ~19 or 20! Unless you were going thru a second childhood in college (like many have)...
How old did you THINK I was? Old enough to remember the premier of "Encounter at Farpoint" doesn't automatically mean "old enough that I used to think dialup internet was a miracle of technology."^
Wait, aren't you my age? So when PR premiered in August 1993 you were ~19 or 20! Unless you were going thru a second childhood in college (like many have)...
I just thought I remembered you saying you graduated HS in 1992 (like me). Or maybe that was someone else.....
I was reading about the new Dwarf Planet, 2015 RR245, that was recently discovered out past Pluto.
http://www.space.com/33387-dwarf-planet-discovery-2015-rr245.html
The exact size of 2015 RR245 is not yet known, but the researchers think it's about 435 miles (700 kilometers) wide.
Is it possible that a similar sized icy world somehow broke apart, maybe do to a collision or internal build up of pressure where the large pieces of the planet became like comers and create a coma large enough to cause the dimming to take place at KIC 8462?
http://www.space.com/33387-dwarf-planet-discovery-2015-rr245.html
The exact size of 2015 RR245 is not yet known, but the researchers think it's about 435 miles (700 kilometers) wide.
Is it possible that a similar sized icy world somehow broke apart, maybe do to a collision or internal build up of pressure where the large pieces of the planet became like comers and create a coma large enough to cause the dimming to take place at KIC 8462?
I hope you meant "comets".
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Of course it's POSSIBLE. But since that event would be indistinguishable from "a large group of comets" and since "large group of comets" is a far more common occurrence in a solar system that hasn't recently been visited by the Death Star, "large group of comets" is the more likely explanation.
No, I meant planet that broke apart.
Perhaps a planet the size of Saturn but was an ice planet like Uranus but more so like Enceladus that as the planet came closer to KIC 8462852 sublimated and released more water vapor that then collected dust particles and becoming frozen caused the dimming of KIC 8462852. Basically like a planetary sized comet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enceladus
http://sites.psu.edu/astrowright/2016/06/02/evaporating-planets-and-exoplanet-interiors-with-jwst/
The typo was "comers" -- I was making a salacious remark. Comets remain the best theory until more data is gathered.
Comets have already been completely discounted 100%.
A planet the size of Neptune that is an ice planet that has broken up and transited KIC 8462 sublimating during the transit would be a better solution.
To cause the dims of KIC 8462 on the magnitude of 15% and 22% would take hundreds of thousands of comets to accomplish.
But a planet that has broken up and sublimated during the transit would provide more debris.
A better analysis will be determined when the James Webb telescope goes on line which KIC 8462 would most likely be the first object that is viewed.
Citation needed.
More data is required.
By YOU, apparently, although they are still the leading explanation for literally everyone else. You're basically playing a long game of "What could it be OTHER than comets?" that has now been reduced to an ever-expanding list of "things that are exactly like comets in every possible way without actually being comets"
I don't know WHY you're doing this, but I must assume you're enjoying yourself.
Actually the Kepler team calculated it would take no less than 8, probably around 12 or 14.
It is extremely unlikely that Tabby's Star will be the first or second or even 50th object viewed by Webb if and when it ever flies.
Asbo mentioned this comment in another post - UV or corpuscular radiation from the star would be required to create ionisation in the atmosphere. A planetary magnetic field wouldn't do this, although it could trap charged particles from the stellar wind that could.
Definitions:
1. radiation consisting of streams of subatomic particles such as protons, electrons, neutrons, etc.
What naturally occurring instance in a sun would cause the stream of subatomic particles to dim but would not show the sun is going through a natural change?
Definitions:
1. radiation consisting of streams of subatomic particles such as protons, electrons, neutrons, etc.
What naturally occurring instance in a sun would cause the stream of subatomic particles to dim but would not show the sun is going through a natural change?
The flux of subatomic particles could be affected by variations in the magnetic field of the star, flares, coronal mass ejections, and corotating interaction regions, and need not necessarily be correlated with a long-term magnetic cycle (for example, our Sun's 11-year/22-year cycle).
http://www.space.com/33634-alien-pl..._campaign=socialfbspc&cmpid=social_spc_514630
KIC 8462 could be a tightly packed system like is mentioned in the article with one of the planets being an Ice Giant that would sublimate when it came close to KIC 8462. The orbit of the pack could be close and then very far away which might explain why it isn't a commonly occurring event seen with a pack that is tight and would orbit close to KIC 8462 on a regular basis.
KIC 8462 could be a tightly packed system like is mentioned in the article with one of the planets being an Ice Giant that would sublimate when it came close to KIC 8462. The orbit of the pack could be close and then very far away which might explain why it isn't a commonly occurring event seen with a pack that is tight and would orbit close to KIC 8462 on a regular basis.
Great info and right on point for this thread.
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