Kid Recreates the famous "Khaaann!" moment in TWOK

Discussion in 'Fan Productions' started by Ryan Thomas Riddle, Jun 15, 2016.

  1. Ryan Thomas Riddle

    Ryan Thomas Riddle Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Best fan film I've seen in a while.



    The original for comparison:

     
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  2. Serveaux

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    Things I love about this in no particular order:

    • The visual pun surrounding "You've got Genesis;"
    • Khan's headbanger henchman;
    • Kirk's crew of stuffed animals versus Khan's pet tyrannosaurus.
    This kid should go far. :D
     
  3. Professor Zoom

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    THAT is WONDERFUL.
    Besides the wonderful performance... the TECHNICAL level was fantastic. The sound was great. The picture was great.
    There are a ton of fan films that should pay attention.
     
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  4. Admiral2

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    Could somebody cc this kid the Axanar script so it can be made by somebody competent without the lawsuit baggage?
     
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  5. Ryan Thomas Riddle

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    To be frank, the Axanar script is hardly competent.
     
  6. Karzak

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    Robert Meyer Burnett could learn a thing or two from this kid about how to keep his camera steady.
     
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  7. Campe

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    Oh, come on... It was intentional! :p
     
  8. Karzak

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    They should get him to take over Alec Peters roll in Axanar.
     
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  10. USS Triumphant

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    This clip, if made now, would violate rule 3 of the guidelines: "The content in the fan production must be original, not reproductions, recreations or clips from any Star Trek production." :(
     
  11. Philip Guyott

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    It's a parody so it should be OK.
     
  12. wamdue

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    to say nothing of the unofficial communication prop and uniform.

    On the plus side, I dont think any of the teddy bears involved have ever worked on Star Trek before, so maybe its ok. ;)
     
  13. USS Triumphant

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    I'm pretty sure those items don't violate the rule, since they aren't knock-offs of the correct items from an unlicensed source. They're a watch and regular clothes.

    But perhaps I'm taking your comment too seriously. :razz:
     
  14. wamdue

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    your a Star Trek fan, its your way.
     
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  15. Wowbagger

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    Do you see an exemption in the guidelines for parody?
     
  16. Ryan Thomas Riddle

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    Shouldn't be an issue because parody is allowed under copyright law whether there is a provision in the guidelines or not.
     
  17. ozzfloyd

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    Parody is protected regardless of any guidelines from the studio
     
  18. ihno

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    Nice.

    They can still try to sue. ;)
     
  19. Wowbagger

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    So's transformative not-for-profit fair use, but nobody seems to be putting much stock in that copyright law exemption protecting them from a lawsuit.

    Unless CBS/P says they aren't suing parodists, they should be considered to be affected by the same rubric to the same extent as everyone else.

    EDIT: Incidentally, in what sense is this parody in the first place? Do you see a commentary on the source material here?
     
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  20. Ryan Thomas Riddle

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    It's clearly parody. The teddy bears, the Genesis bible gag, the metal rocker Khan lackey, etc. It is, by the dictionary definition, a parody, which must imitate and exaggerate the source material.

    Further:

    This was done for comic effect. It exaggerated the original scene in the performances and overall style. And the elements I listed above — the Genesis bible gag, the metal lackey, the teddy bears as Kirk's crew while Khan has a T-Rex crew — are all commentary on the source material. For, get this, comic effect.

    Hence, parody.

    You're looking for reasons for a lawsuit where none exist in this particular video. This is parody, plain and simple, which falls under fair use. And who's not putting stock in that exemption, as you say?

    But you know what, let's ask @jespah, our resident attorney, for a ruling. Is this Jespah, parody and is it protected under fair use? Can Paramount or CBS sue this kid and his dad for this video?

    As an aside: are we now all going to suss out if any sort of Trek-related video violates the new guidelines? Because that's seems to be what's happening in this thread.
     
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