Starship Size Argument™ thread

At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter (says the guy counting decks ). The Enterprise is a vehicle of the imagination and people are losing site of that when we have pissing matches over the minutiae.

 

It does, she's officially the biggest Starfleet/Federation ship ever made now. The Galaxy was phat, the Sovereign was longer but 1/8th the volume of her. The new Enterprise beats both.

And the Enterprise that replaces her in the new movie will be 900 meters long just to make sure.

 

We should just go for the even kilometer!

 

They should really paint 100m increments on the hull, just yellow lines with the numbers so spell it out for some people.

 

I'm glad I'm not the only wanted who noted this point, because it's a rather odd argument. "There's no reason for X" could be applied to just about any Starfleet design. I have no problem with the nu-Enterprise being much larger because it was built to address a specific threat.

Also, I love the new schematic. What magazine is it in?

 

Exactly. The Armstrong, Newton, Mayflower and so on where all bigger than the original Enterprise by the scale given, and the Kelvin was enormous on her own. The saucer debris around Vulcan was from another vessel that was about 95% just saucer but bigger than all the others. (so about 400m on it's own?)

 

NAH IT WAS THE DIAGRAMS!

 

= This ain't your daddy's Star Trek.

 

Popular Mechanics, I believe.

 

The problem is of course, that there is officially licensed material out there, that states sizes comparable to prime-universe ships of that time. The Starship Collection's Kelvin, for example, is given at 350 meters in length in the accompanying magazine. Revell says, their model of the Enterprise is 1:600 scale and 588 millimeters long, which puts the supposed length at 294 meters.

Although, Revell and scale on starship models...

 

"Official" means the license holder collects cash on it. The material itself has no more weight than fan fiction.

 

Yeah--its 700 meters.
The TAS ship--to have all those huge shuttlecraft--would have to scale out to about that big anyway.

I'd love to see the wider saucer on the one with a secondary hull with that double outline.

 

Not the first cutaway of the NuTrek Enterprise I've seen. Check out http://www.michaelwileyart.com/portfolio/newenterprisecutaway.htm

 

I correctly guessed the positioning of the brewery and NIF engineering sections in mine

 

Wow I come back and there are three or four rude comments on the first page - I guess I should expect this from the internet by now - but I always expect Trekkers to be more tolerant for some reason.

BTW, just to clarify for the nicer folks, I didn't write those annotations, it was from Ex Astris Scientia.

 

I didn't write that - its the opinion of Bernd Schnieder from Ex Astris Scientia - he has been analyzing starships for years, or maybe decades, on his site - a lot of people use his stuff - I agree with 90% of his conclusions, and they fit with prior opinions from like Mike Okuda and others pretty well - but I understand that "dwarfs without reason" is a highly subjective statement.

 

Going by the scale in the corner, if the Enterprise were only 300 meters would there even be room for that interior layout in the Franklin? She'd only be be about 40-50 meters long by my reckoning, and that's counting the nacelles.