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Spoilers X-Men: Apocalypse - Grading & Discussion

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A lot of people are helicoptered whining babies who expect the media to censor anything that might trigger their various personal issues.

Apocalypse is... wait for it... the villain.

Also known as "the bad guy".

What was he supposed to be doing in the image, having brunch with her? Maybe giving her a high-five?

He's the bad guy, that means he does bad things. Get it?
 
Caught this last night. For a movie that was technically shorter than Batman v. Superman, this one felt twice as long. Some good bits scattered throughout -- Fassbender was used much better than he was in Days of Future Past, it was nice to see Cyclops actually doing stuff, Quicksilver was of course a highlight, Isaac was doing his best underneath what looked to be about ten pounds of makeup -- but it never really felt cohesive. Too many attempts at "moments" or "bits" at the expense of telling a real story.

Basically, Simon Kinberg is not a good writer.
 
I did a fly by grade earlier: B-

Thought I might come in and type out some thoughts but I see most have been covered.
I wanted more. Movie still left some unexplained fallout from DOFP(like how did Logan still end up with the real Stryker). Film seems to shake loose all prior Wolverine + admantium infusion scenes from X2 & W:Origins. The classic BWS Weapon X origin as a timeline fix was welcomed.
So now Nightcrawler is moved up the timeline...clearly then NOT Mystiques son as he could've been from X2 but I suppose Azazel is still likely his dad.

I don't think it'll hold up good on subsequent re-watches.
 
A lot of people are helicoptered whining babies who expect the media to censor anything that might trigger their various personal issues.

Apocalypse is... wait for it... the villain.

Also known as "the bad guy".

What was he supposed to be doing in the image, having brunch with her? Maybe giving her a high-five?

He's the bad guy, that means he does bad things. Get it?
Sure, I don't think anybody will deny that. But an image of a huge guy choking a woman is still a bad choice of image to promote a movie like this.
I really wasn't to bothered by the scene in the movie, but I still think it was a bad choice of image to use to promote the movie.
Fox has said they will take down the poster.
EDIT: Ooops, Ninjaed by Turtrletrekker.
You do have point about Rose McGowan. I'm surprised enough people care about her these days to even be aware she said anything. :angel:
 
My first reaction to the complaints re the poster were 'Oh FFS, it's two obviously-fantastical beings, how can anyone take it seriously?' But then it occurred to me that I'm not a female who's been the victim of domestic violence and I'm lucky enough not to have had any female close relatives suffer domestic violence (at least, not that I know of). So perhaps I ought not to mansplain it to those who aren't quite so lucky as me.
 
Oh, and Psylocke's costume was absolutely fucking ridiculous. Talk about Exhibit A in why taking things 1:1 from the comics isn't always a good idea.
 
Completely agree, especially since everyone else was covered pretty much from their necks down in spiffy armor. Hell, even Mystique, who's famous for being naked, had the armor.
I can understand wanting to have a call back to the comics, but there are ways to do that without using the same ridiculous costume from the comics.
Hell, Psylocke doesn't even dress like that in the comics anymore. I think this costume from the 2013 Uncanny X-Force series would have fit in pretty well with what everyone else was wearing
My first reaction to the complaints re the poster were 'Oh FFS, it's two obviously-fantastical beings, how can anyone take it seriously?' But then it occurred to me that I'm not a female who's been the victim of domestic violence and I'm lucky enough not to have had any female close relatives suffer domestic violence (at least, not that I know of). So perhaps I ought not to mansplain it to those who aren't quite so lucky as me.
Exactly. I think knowing the context makes it hard to see the complaints since we're looking at it as a part of the movie, but when you just see the image by itself I think it makes sense that some people would have a problem with it.
EDIT: The discussion of Psylocke's costume reminded me of one other thing that bugged me. The "flight suits" and the X-Men uniforms at the end seemed way to futuristic to have believably come from the 1980s.
 
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Completely agree, especially since everyone else was covered pretty much from their necks down in spiffy armor. Hell, even Mystique, who's famous for being naked, had the armor.
I can understand wanting to have a call back to the comics, but there are ways to do that without using the same ridiculous costume from the comics.

I just remember Munn saying that it took like three or four assistants and a half-gallon of lube to get all that tight latex crap on her, and on her first day of shooting, her crotch split. At some point, someone like Singer or Louise Mingenbach should have said, "You know ... maybe, just maybe, this wasn't the best idea."
 
Olivia Munn is a very beautiful and sexy woman and this costume really did nothing to flatter her.

I'd definitely second Timby when he says Kinberg isn't a good writer. Even the films of his I really liked (FC & DOFP), the writing was the weakest link. On other films like Mr & Mrs Smith, the writing was outright bad IMHO.
 
Even the films of his I really liked (FC & DOFP), the writing was the weakest link.

In fairness, Kinberg didn't write First Class (and it's all the better for it; it's easily the tightest-written film of the series outside of X2), and on Days of Future Past, he had Matthew Vaughn and Jane Goldman working on the script with him.
 
^Ah I see. Well, that makes sense then. Probably the weaker movies in his cv (or the weaker parts of those movies) are more representative of his quality of writing.
 
I just remember Munn saying that it took like three or four assistants and a half-gallon of lube to get all that tight latex crap on her, and on her first day of shooting, her crotch split. At some point, someone like Singer or Louise Mingenbach should have said, "You know ... maybe, just maybe, this wasn't the best idea."
Actually, IIRC, the comics-accurate costume was Munn's idea.
 
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