Rogue One (2016) [SW Anthology Series)
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The fact the movie is going in for reshoots is being reported by very reliable and trustworthy sources. However, those sources are debunking and shooting down the claims that this is a result to negative reactions at test screenings, as there haven't been any test screenings of the movies yet.
Reshoots are surprisingly common, especially among Disney films. In fact, with the MCU films reshoots are even budgeted for and prepared for and even scheduled during pre-production.
Although Beyond's reshoots introduce a whole new character who hadn't previously been in the film. Which seems a bit unusual to me.
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Io9 says some stories are coming out saying that the reshoots are because they felt the movie's tone was too different from the other SW movies. If this is really the reason, then I'm a disappointed, because the fact that it did seem to have a different tone from the other SW movies was one of the things that interested me the most.
Same with the Lord of the Rings and Hobbit films.
And the second and third Hobbit films were pretty much created when they did the reshoots.
So yeah, non-story is just that, a non-story. There could be any number of reasons for doing reshoots, Disney being in a panic probably ain't one.
Operating on the premise that this development is true for the sake of discussion, what's the point of having an anthology series at all? I thought they were trying to introduce a greater variety of styles and tones to the films rather than enforce conformity across the board?
It's not like they didn't know what they were going to be getting with this film right from the start, since it was pitched as "Saving Private Ryan meets Star Wars." Now they're shocked that it's a gritty war film that's darker than most Star Wars films except possibly TESB? And god forbid you'd want to emulate the tone of arguably the best film in the series.
I can't imagine with Alan Tudyk playing a robot and with Felicity Jones' sarcastic quips in the trailer that there wasn't some existing "levity" that's appropriate to the setting already, it's just not dominated by it because they're on a freaking secret suicide mission to an enemy stronghold.
I enjoyed The Force Awakens, but not everything needs to fit in with it tonally.
Not surprised about Disney mandating changes. The last thing they want is a film that's too dark for the important family/child audience.
Even The Force Awakens felt to me like a film that had been designed by a committee.
Even The Force Awakens felt to me like a film that had been designed by a committee.
The whole concept of the film is dark and it is good I think to have a film taking place in the Star Wars universe aimed more towards adults.
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If it is indeed a result of the movie being "too dark" or whatever, than it seems really odd to wait until now before acting. After all, it's been made pretty clear all along this was meant to be a darker, bleaker setting than other SW films. Didn't Gareth Edwards describe the movie as depicting a world without Jedi or the Force feeling like a universe "abandoned by God?" It seems to me if Disney had issues with this kind of setting they should have acted long before now.
Not sure where people are getting the notion that the film is being watered down, even if the reports are remotely accurate. One of the quotes the above articles cited says that they felt it didn't have TFA's "edge". This to me doesn't sound like a fundamental issue with the tone or premise, just that it needed refining.
Which is fine. The movie is still months from release and such adjustments and refinements are perfectly normal at this stage.
Which is fine. The movie is still months from release and such adjustments and refinements are perfectly normal at this stage.
I'm now seeing reports indicating the reshoots are related to the fact the movie ends pretty much ten minutes prior to ANH's opening and Disney or the Story Group wants things to mesh together better and Disney also wants some sort of tie-in/set up for the Han Solo origin movie.
Blame Batman Vs. Superman. After that, all the studios are nervous about a film being perceived as "too dark."
I am expecting it to be like Guardians of the Galaxy... which apparently is the new template for ALL sci-fi tentpole films. 
GotG had a scene where the hero almost freezes to death in the dark of space, and Ronan nearly destroying an entire planet. It certainly had its dark moments.
I'm not sure how anyone not directly involved in production can claim to have even the slightest idea what if any effect reshoots are going to have on the final product since 1) none of us have seen the rough cut 2) read the script or 3) know any specifics whatsoever of what is being adjusted. Let alone be able to point to the cause or motivations behind any such thing.
It's all wild speculation and making mountains out of molehills at this stage. It's non-news. Clickbait fodder.
It's all wild speculation and making mountains out of molehills at this stage. It's non-news. Clickbait fodder.
I feel like these things work at cross purposes to one another. If you're recasting Han in an origin movie I don't think you would want to have that guy running around right before ANH when he's supposed to be Harrison Ford.
Edit: Well, an image has leaked from the reshoots, and it's worse than we thought. MAJOR Rogue One plot spoiler below:
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