Need to know questions about Borg books and other Star Trek items

[5billionof5billion]

First off, none of the books are canon, and they never have been so you are not going to get any canon recurrection, unless the new movie does it. As for short stories with the Borg, I'm pretty sure there were several Borg stories in the Strange New Worlds collections. It's not a short story, but one of the novellas in Seven Deadly Sins focuses on the Borg. It sounds like you're thinking of the fan series Renegades.

Strange New Worlds books weren't the only ones to have short stories in them. There was one other book that had several Next Generation short stories in them. Most of them were pre-Nemesis, and a few weren't. In one of them about Wesley Crusher, they had Spock dying, Picard dying of dehydration, and Wesley being a married man. It turned out to have the traveler in it. How were they able to get away with such dramatic changes? Is the traveler some sort of time traveling alien who can change history or something?
God bless, Jason Irelan

 

[Six of Twelve]

Based on some of the comments here, I bought the Destiny saga in an omnibus Kindle edition. Like Jason, I've been looking to read all the Borg themed books.

I've read Christie Golden's book about Seven of Nine, which I was somewhat disappointed with, as well as her two books set at the end of Voyager, which also left me not quite satisfied. Reading the good words here and on Amazon about the Destiny trilogy, I'm hoping for a more satisfying read this time.

Oh, and it really hacks me off that Star Trek books are not available at my library , as I can't afford to buy books very often. I'd read a lot more of them if they were available at the library.

 

[Thrawn]

Request them. Libraries will often purchase books people request.

 

[Greg Cox]

Strange New Worlds books weren't the only ones to have short stories in them. There was one other book that had several Next Generation short stories in them. Most of them were pre-Nemesis, and a few weren't. In one of them about Wesley Crusher, they had Spock dying, Picard dying of dehydration, and Wesley being a married man. It turned out to have the traveler in it. How were they able to get away with such dramatic changes? Is the traveler some sort of time traveling alien who can change history or something?
God bless, Jason Irelan

Possibly that was the Myriad Universes anthology, which was all about "alternate universe" stories that deliberately took place outside the standard continuity. Sort of like the "Imaginary Stories" DC Comics used to publish, or Marvel's old "What If?" comic-book series.

In other words, that was a special case where the writers were allowed to explore different possibilities--with CBS's permission, of course.

 

[5billionof5billion]

Based on some of the comments here, I bought the Destiny saga in an omnibus Kindle edition. Like Jason, I've been looking to read all the Borg themed books.

I've read Christie Golden's book about Seven of Nine, which I was somewhat disappointed with, as well as her two books set at the end of Voyager, which also left me not quite satisfied. Reading the good words here and on Amazon about the Destiny trilogy, I'm hoping for a more satisfying read this time.

Oh, and it really hacks me off that Star Trek books are not available at my library , as I can't afford to buy books very often. I'd read a lot more of them if they were available at the library.

I borrowed one Borg book from the library, Resistance; and I got Before Dishonor for just a dollar at a comic book shop that sells used Star Trek novels.

Unfortunately, that link didn't help much as for all the Borg novels. One thing I noticed about Child of Two Worlds that was irritating. This is in no way the fault of the writer, but it was that they don't list the names of the Star Trek books put out by Pocket Books anymore. I know that there are probably hundreds and that would take several pages to do, but it'd be nice if they'd go back to doing that.
God bless, Jason Irelan

 

[Greg Cox]

I know that there are probably hundreds and that would take several pages to do, but it'd be nice if they'd go back to doing that.
God bless, Jason Irelan

I suspect we're probably pushing seven hundred titles by now, if not more!

 

[DimesDan]

I know that there are probably hundreds and that would take several pages to do,

Nearly 700 or maybe even 800 and given it's such a niche demand, all that information can be found online in one place or another, it's just pointless.

And why do you feel the need to insert god bless at the end of each of your posts? Do you physically write it or is it your signature, either way, it's rather insulting to people who don't believe in your idea of an imaginary sky being - and yes, I understand the hypocrisy or such a comment.

 

[5billionof5billion]

Are they still putting out DS9 novels? I used to hate that series, but now it's become one of my favorites because of Odo.
God bless, Jason Irelan

 

[Jinn]

Are they still putting out DS9 novels? I used to hate that series, but now it's become one of my favorites because of Odo.
God bless, Jason Irelan

Yes.This year we'll get Force and Motion and The Rules of Accusation, the latter is an ebook only short story or novella.
The DS9-R was "relaunched" in 2014 I think with The Missing and then followed up by Sacraments of Fire and Ascendance.

 

[Jinn]

Do you physically write it or is it your signature

I think the signature is always divided from the rest of the post by a dashed line, so he either copy and pastes it from previous posts or really types it new every time. I wonder how Kor and other users with similar post-endingd do this. Kor probably types it in since it's only three letters, unlike 'God bless, Jason Irelan'.

Live long and Prosper, Jinn.

 

[JD]

Strange New Worlds books weren't the only ones to have short stories in them.

I never said they were. You asked specifically about Borg short stories and I don't know of any in the other anthologies, but I'm pretty sure I've seen references to Borg stories in more than one of the Strange New Worlds anthologies.

Possibly that was the Myriad Universes anthology, which was all about "alternate universe" stories that deliberately took place outside the standard continuity. Sort of like the "Imaginary Stories" DC Comics used to publish, or Marvel's old "What If?" comic-book series.

In other words, that was a special case where the writers were allowed to explore different possibilities--with CBS's permission, of course.

I don't think that was a Myriad Universe story, I've read all of them and none of that sounds familiar.

 

[Greg Cox]

There's definitely a longish Borg story in the STAR TREK: SEVEN DEADLY SINS anthology, with the Borg representing "gluttony" in that collection.

 

[vegaslover62]

I've never understood the bizarre hatred some Star Trek fans feel for stories that are not considered canon.

I've never understood why people come to this site and constantly yap about what they personally consider canon. I believe I speak for everybody else when I say:

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That goes for 5billion's opinion of Marina Sirtis as well.

 

[James Swallow]

Strange New Worlds books weren't the only ones to have short stories in them. There was one other book that had several Next Generation short stories in them. Most of them were pre-Nemesis, and a few weren't. In one of them about Wesley Crusher, they had Spock dying, Picard dying of dehydration, and Wesley being a married man. It turned out to have the traveler in it. How were they able to get away with such dramatic changes? Is the traveler some sort of time traveling alien who can change history or something?
God bless, Jason Irelan

Possibly that was the Myriad Universes anthology, which was all about "alternate universe" stories that deliberately took place outside the standard continuity. Sort of like the "Imaginary Stories" DC Comics used to publish, or Marvel's old "What If?" comic-book series.

In other words, that was a special case where the writers were allowed to explore different possibilities--with CBS's permission, of course.

The story being referred to here is "Ordinary Days", which I wrote for the ST:TNG anthology The Sky's The Limit.

It wasn't technically a Myriad Universes story, but it was (as Greg notes) a kind of "what if?" tale where the Traveler gives Wesley a glimpse of an alternate timeline in which his life played out differently.

 

[5billionof5billion]

Yes.This year we'll get Force and Motion and The Rules of Accusation, the latter is an ebook only short story or novella.
The DS9-R was "relaunched" in 2014 I think with The Missing and then followed up by Sacraments of Fire and Ascendance.

Do any of them have Odo? What's The Rules of Accusation? Is that another Ferengi list book like The Rules of Acquisition? The reason I'm asking if Odo's in any is because it seems like I heard he joined his own kind at the end. I haven't actually watched the finale of DS9, so I don't know. Maybe I should.

We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.
God bless, Jason Irelan

 

[Jinn]

Do any of them have Odo?

I haven't read them but Force and Motion is a O'Brien/Nog adventure so I think that if he is in them it will be a very small cameo role at the very beginning/end.

What's The Rules of Accusation? Is that another Ferengi list book like The Rules of Acquisition?

It's another Ferengi EBook Short story by Terry J. Erdmann & Paula M. Block who have also written Lust's Latinum Lost (and Found).

The reason I'm asking if Odo's in any is because it seems like I heard he joined his own kind at the end.

He did but he returned in two of David R. George III Typhon Pact novels, Plagues of Night and Raise the Dawn. They are very crucial to the current Deep Space Nine novel series so you may want to read them.

I haven't actually watched the finale of DS9, so I don't know. Maybe I should.

It is one of the better finales, which probably doesn't means much since it's competing with Enterprises "These are the Voyages", Voyagers "Endgame" and the Origianl Series' Turnaboud Intruder.

 

[5billionof5billion]

I haven't read them but Force and Motion is a O'Brien/Nog adventure so I think that if he is in them it will be a very small cameo role at the very beginning/end.

It's another Ferengi EBook Short story by Terry J. Erdmann & Paula M. Block who have also written Lust's Latinum Lost (and Found).


He did but he returned in two of David R. George III Typhon Pact novels, Plagues of Night and Raise the Dawn. They are very crucial to the current Deep Space Nine novel series so you may want to read them.


It is one of the better finales, which probably doesn't means much since it's competing with Enterprises "These are the Voyages", Voyagers "Endgame" and the Origianl Series'Turnaround Intruder.

Thank you kindly. Actually, it's Turnabout Intruder. That's the episode where Kirk was in a woman's body. So far, I like Voyager's Endgame the best because of the Borg. I'm saying so far because I heard there's another Star Trek series starting soon. I can hardly wait to see who will be in it.

What will fans have to do if they want to see Star Trek: Renegades?

We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.
God bless, Jason Irelan

 

[Jinn]

Actually, it's Turnabout Intruder. That's the episode where Kirk was in a woman's body.

I think I was close enough

So far, I like Voyager's Endgame the best because of the Borg.

I liked it for the most part but it just didn't provide a satisfiying ending to the series. Concerning These are the Voyages, I liked the concept but it would have worked better if it wasn't the last episode. My ranking for Trek last episodes would be TNG (by far my favorite. I loved every bit of it, excpet that weird Troi-Worf relationship. Where did that come from?), DS9 (I don't want to spoil anything for you but it was pretty good), VOY (see above), ENT (also see above), TOS ( for me this episode just didn't make much sense since, at least in later Trek lore it was established that women could be Captains of starships even in the 23rd century.)

What will fans have to do if they want to see Star Trek: Renegades?

Here is the official Renegades YouTube channel.

 

[Christopher]

...and the Origianl Series' Turnabound Intruder.

That sounds like the BDSM-porn parody edition. Which, come to think of it, could be an improvement...

Concerning These are the Voyages, I liked the concept but it would have worked better if it wasn't the last episode.

I'm partial to Manny Coto's (?) view, which is that "Terra Prime" is the actual ENT finale and TATV is more of a coda for the franchise as a whole.

 

[Iamnotspock]

I'm partial to Manny Coto's (?) view, which is that "Terra Prime" is the actual ENT finale and TATV is more of a coda for the franchise as a whole.

Mike Sussman, I think.

EDIT: *Checks Memory Alpha*: In response to fan criticisms, series producer Manny Coto stated that he personally considered this episode to be a coda rather than the true finale of the series. Both he and fellow series producer Mike Sussman consider the two-part story "Demons" and "Terra Prime" that precede this installment to be the actual finale of the Enterprise storyline