CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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That's quite intriguing. There will be more clarification coming on why he did this? I mean, what impetus would cause someone in or some part of The Business be forthcoming to the public about something like this?
Oh, and is Mr. Abrams on the outs with CBS or something? I noticed the 'to screw with CBS'. LOL
Alec has publicly stated that The Sandy Rule prevents them from giving refunds.
Well, yeah, we were ALL like that at some point. I don't think there is anyone who said, "Nope, don't want it" from the get-go.
Seems like Abrams' loyalties are with Paramount and not CBS.
Huh. Yeah, sure, I can see that. Ah, which might be known in certain circles, one of which Mr. Abrams may have intersected with to get his info about a settlement in the brew. I had been wondering where he could get that information if, as Mr. Wheeler says, he publicly revealed it on his own, for his own reasons.
Ah.
Well, okay, but, now, what does that sentence mean? The 'as much a commercial endeavor as it is a legal one' part.
The studio is wimping out? Have we, or someone, learned the details of the settlement or something?
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I'll be the first one to say that I get info about second or third hand, so even I'm skeptical of what makes it my way. But since so much of what I've heard overlaps in certain spots, I think the safest, most conservative read is that Abrams took the initiative to say something and it caught everyone involved in the case off guard. It seems to have caused lots of stress that the parties weren't expecting.
Had the studios already decided to settle? Did Abrams convince Paramount to settle and leave CBS out in the cold? Did CBS decide to settle and Abrams was working Paramount to agree? Was Abrams a direct party to the negotiations? Was it a decision to settle but nothing had been agreed? Was this a spur-of-the moment thing or had Abrams (and Lin) been working matters for weeks? Is this some kind of payback to CBS for not granting Bad Robot rights to a TV series? I think you'd have to be in the loop to say anything definitely. I'm not.
However, since Peters didn't know this was coming, since their PR guy released a guarded statement, since Paramount didn't have anything more than a three line statement, and since all the other scuttlebutt is complete exasperation behind the scenes, I think it's reasonable to say this was a premature announcement. The Axanar matter isn't wrapped up yet.
It's such soap opera!
Thats not how i woukd describe it lol
I know!!!! I'm just coming down from an unexpected bout of laughter about how so convoluted everything is once I start examining, well, anything.
A major case of loling going on here in front of my computer screen!
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I was trying to avoid "clusterfuck." There are young Tellaritie piglets present. :-)
Lol clusterfuck thats my new word of the day.
I wish there was a Love button instead of a like for this.
I've seen the same miss quote in the few "news sites" I've opened. If so several outlets got it wrong in the same way, I almost question if the statement was pre released ahead of time and J.J just forgot his lines.
Remember, this is Hollywood where events are often carefully scripted. A.P. just happened to be there?
That has not been my experience and I have written several Axanar articles for them.
Definitely agree - have made my own (strong) opinions pretty clear by now I think, didn't really want to make another post spinning the same ol' wheel though. In any event, these tools will surely get a just amount of karma from C/P for all this, if not through the legal system now (fines/penalties) then indirectly later on (tainted reputations making it hard to get work etc.)
What's just as important, if not moreso, is what someone else just mentioned a few posts up - the lasting consequences for other fan films/works. If something resembling the status quo, even loosely, ends up being the result - I doubt many people will care what happens to the parties involved, because they can still create/enjoy what they have been creating/enjoyig all this time. If C/P puts tight or otherwise onerous restrictions in place, I doubt you'll hear the end of any anti-axanar vitriol for a while.
I enjoy Star Trek fan films. I love the passion of fellow Trekkers having fun. For the most part everyone has played fair staying under CBS/P's radar. AP has definitely loused that up when he crossed the line morphing his "fan film" into a for-profit IP grabbing business.
Remember there are two lawsuits, one for Axanar Works and one for AP personally. Whatever goes down AP is out to save himself and his Axanar company, not be an ambassador of goodwill looking out for the common Joe/Jane Star Trek fan. AP has alienated too many people and at this point he can turn on the charm spinning excuses to his hearts content, it wont make a difference, he has no one to blame but himself.
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It looks as if author Cory Doctorow is closer to getting the Axanar story right.
http://boingboing.net/2016/05/21/jj-abrams-makes-paramount-drop.html
In it he says "It's not clear whether Paramount actually dropped the suit, or whether they're in settlement talks with Axanar."
Thanks Cory, for pointing put he ambiguity!
http://boingboing.net/2016/05/21/jj-abrams-makes-paramount-drop.html
In it he says "It's not clear whether Paramount actually dropped the suit, or whether they're in settlement talks with Axanar."
Thanks Cory, for pointing put he ambiguity!
I have an overall frustration with Trekmovie in general. When Anthony was running things, I do personally believe the overall quality of reporting was better, even if it grew less frequent over time.
I'll admit to writing my statement in the heat of the moment; it's just that the posters there are so convinced that this is some great victory for the fans now that things may be winding down soon for this lawsuit, and I have no reason to believe this is the case at all.
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