IGN: "We May Know When the New Show Is Set"
Trek 2017 TV Show Teaser
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Are you referring to me? if so, then my comment is actually more relevant because it's the movies that started the idea of villains central to the plot.
I'd agree that TOS not "about" villains but because of it's allegorical nature there were a lot of antagonists set up that way for a fall.
I agree more STNG became even less about villains, it's a more dramatic and idea-based show, then more of them started creeping up in DS9 and Voyager.
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Trek 2017 TV Show Teaser
Praxis was also in STID and the tv trailer looks way more like the video in the link above. There's no reason to think it came from the prime timeline. It also could be centered around the destruction of Hobus, which also looks like the star and had a destroyed planet associated with it..
Post STVI seems like an odd point to start from..the destruction of one energy source planet being the downfall of the Klingon multi-planetary empire made no sense whatsoever. Indeed in STID with Praxis destroyed, the Klingons are still dangerous.
Praxis was also in STID and the tv trailer looks way more like the video in the link above. There's no reason to think it came from the prime timeline. It also could be centered around the destruction of Hobus, which also looks like the star and had a destroyed planet associated with it..
Post STVI seems like an odd point to start from..the destruction of one energy source planet being the downfall of the Klingon multi-planetary empire made no sense whatsoever. Indeed in STID with Praxis destroyed, the Klingons are still dangerous.
Did a side-by-side comparison of the two planets in the teaser with Praxis and Amargosa.
Which precisely nobody has said. Trek has rarely been about killing the bad guy (although it has been, our heroes are not immune to a nice bit of bloodlust, TOS included - Obsession, Operation Annihilate). But it has very regularly been about thwarting the plans of this week's alien entity/enemy commander/Starfleet officer gone mad (such as the episodes I quoted above), or making gains for our heroes against an enemy/outside agent (Enterprise Incident, Trouble with Tribbles). Trek is full of classic villain plotlines - good guys beat the bad guys, defeats their evil plans and save the day. No different from Harry Potter stopping Voldemorts plans, or Mal Reynolds getting one up on the Alliance.
Hm, so they think it might be the NCC-1701-B or C period...
A few days old and already the merchandise is hitting the online shop! Buy!
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Ah, okay. Let me render my point a bit more precise, using your Harry Potter example:
"Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone" is basically an introduction to the wizard world and a racing duel for a MacGuffin (said Sorcerer's Stone). There's a villain in it, but he's more tangential to the storyline, and basically mostly serves as a "ticking clock" to make the race more exciting.
"Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire" focuses mainly on the Trimagic Tournament. There's also a villain in it. But he's working basically as the "twist ending".
"Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows" on the other hand is a straight up "defeat the badguy by destroying all the parts of his soul"-plot. Personally I find it the least interesting.
"Harry Potter and the Chamber of secrets" would fall somewhere inbetween. It's a mystery story, and the Basilisk is clearly the foe to be defeated. On the other hand the Basilisk surely doesn't fall in the classic "badguy with a grudge that's basically Hitler and needs to be stopped"-trope.
What I wanted to say as my wish for new Star Trek would be this: Be more "Sorcerer's Stone" and "Chamber of Secrets", and less "Deathly Hallows". That's why I, on a final note, really have absolutely no problem with the notion of "new villains" in the trailer. Villains are a great way to propel a storyline. I just don't wannt "defeating the villain" as the MAIN storyline.
But in this regard I have complete faith in Bryan Fuller.
Did a side-by-side comparison of the two planets in the teaser with Praxis and Amargosa.
The first looks nothing like Praxis, and the second looks like a generic star.
On a similar note - I'm not taking too much when it comes to 'new crews'. It would have been the odd one out if they dropped the S.
That reminds me that the best (and maybe only good) part of Into Darkness for me was the end credits.
(That and the momentary possibility that Kirk would realize that Khan, while bad, was the minor villain and that Marcus was the real villain and truly ally with Khan to bring the Admiral down. Then Khan could go to prison assured that his crew/family was safe. But then Kirk just backstabs Khan for no reason...)
No reason? Watch the movie again if you can force yourself to.
I think the "new villains" mainly serves as a counter-point to "new heroes".
"New crews" and "new heroes" is still somewhat of a redundency.
Also, "new crews" still sounds wrong. It implies multiple captains, multiple doctors etc. But even in this case you could have used "crew". You don't advertise your show with "new casts!".
Mainly I'm excited because they used the word "new" four(!) times. They really seem to want to make sure that this time they try not to rehash the old stuff. The other words could have been chosen a bit more Trek-y. Like "new lifeforms" or "new civilizations".
"New crews" and "new heroes" is still somewhat of a redundency.
Also, "new crews" still sounds wrong. It implies multiple captains, multiple doctors etc. But even in this case you could have used "crew". You don't advertise your show with "new casts!".
Mainly I'm excited because they used the word "new" four(!) times. They really seem to want to make sure that this time they try not to rehash the old stuff. The other words could have been chosen a bit more Trek-y. Like "new lifeforms" or "new civilizations".
The Praxis thing make sense but why would that other star be Amargosa? I know Praxis explodes in 2293 and the energy ribbon arrives in Federation space at the same time but Soran didn't destoy that star untill 79 years later when the ribbon would return again. I don't what importance it would have in this new series?
Was it confirmed somewhere that it is supposed to be Praxis? I mean, if Meyer wasn't involved, would anyone have even thought that?
And "Amargosa" just looks like a generic yellow star, of which there are one or two in the galaxy.
And "Amargosa" just looks like a generic yellow star, of which there are one or two in the galaxy.
As far as I know, nothing has been confirmed anywhere. It's all just speculation at this point.
