Agents of SHIELD: Season 3 - Discussion (SPOILERS LIKELY)
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Smokey Robinson!
Liv Tyler is gettable, as long as she's not busy with the left overs.
Every... wait?
Is "Carla Talbot" really Betty Ross hiding from her Ex-husband?
Carla is wife number 2?
http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Carla_Talbot_(Earth-199999)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0307074/
Can you imagine Ross and Talbot arguing and Ross calls him "Noodlehead"
Maybe they can get a Red Betty?
Good finale. There were some moments that really stood out. John Hannah was impressively fun as Radcliffe. I loved the bit where they caught Hive at the end of an act and the music swelled to a triumphant crescendo over their heroic pose... and then the music stopped and they kept posing and Radcliffe cried "Yes!" I also loved the ending bit with Hive and Lincoln, as someone mentioned above -- that unusually quiet, contemplative, forgiving moment between two enemies who both understood that the fight was ended and just had a minute to reflect before the end.
I never cared much about Lincoln -- in fact, he was the one I was hoping we'd lose -- but the climax was effective because of how devastated Daisy was, and how beautifully Chloe Bennet played it. It really hit hard because it wasn't just about her losing someone she loved -- it was about her deep depression from withdrawal and her profound sense of unworthiness and guilt and self-loathing, and that was painful to see.
How did Hive not know that Lincoln was on the Quinjet, though? Hive was on board before Daisy got there, and yet somehow he failed to notice that Lincoln had gotten on board even earlier.
So Daisy is finally Quake now, huh? And she's some kind of renegade that SHIELD is hunting, though whether she's a vigilante or a terrorist is unclear. Her new look is kinda hot, though.
I dunno, though, the whole "Six Months Later" tag was a bit jarring. Shows these days are too caught up in cliffhangers and foreshadowing, and sometimes it gets in the way of an effective ending. I don't think we needed to see this preview of next season. The Radcliffe/AIDA part in particular seemed random without context. It would've been better just to end it with Hive's defeat and Daisy's grief, give us time to contemplate that and feel the emotions of it, and save the reveal of the new status quo for the season premiere in the fall.
I never cared much about Lincoln -- in fact, he was the one I was hoping we'd lose -- but the climax was effective because of how devastated Daisy was, and how beautifully Chloe Bennet played it. It really hit hard because it wasn't just about her losing someone she loved -- it was about her deep depression from withdrawal and her profound sense of unworthiness and guilt and self-loathing, and that was painful to see.
How did Hive not know that Lincoln was on the Quinjet, though? Hive was on board before Daisy got there, and yet somehow he failed to notice that Lincoln had gotten on board even earlier.
So Daisy is finally Quake now, huh? And she's some kind of renegade that SHIELD is hunting, though whether she's a vigilante or a terrorist is unclear. Her new look is kinda hot, though.
I dunno, though, the whole "Six Months Later" tag was a bit jarring. Shows these days are too caught up in cliffhangers and foreshadowing, and sometimes it gets in the way of an effective ending. I don't think we needed to see this preview of next season. The Radcliffe/AIDA part in particular seemed random without context. It would've been better just to end it with Hive's defeat and Daisy's grief, give us time to contemplate that and feel the emotions of it, and save the reveal of the new status quo for the season premiere in the fall.
"It's not a hunch, it's science!"
"It's a science hunch."
Oh, yes, I'll be using that.
I'm not surprised it was Lincoln and not just because he was the one I wanted to leave since he was introduced. It was the most obvious answer. Yo-Yo and Joey were too new, Coulson and May were too important for the show, fans would riot if it were Fitz or Simmons, and too much has been invested into Daisy. The only other real option was Mack but that seemed unlikely as well. Despite the predictability, I also liked the quiet contemplative moment between Hive and Lincoln, reflecting on life and death instead of mindlessly and pointlessly at each others throats.
Hopefully based on the stinger, John Hannah will be at least a reoccurring guest next season, if not a cast member. They do have some holes to fill in.
"It's a science hunch."
Oh, yes, I'll be using that.
I'm not surprised it was Lincoln and not just because he was the one I wanted to leave since he was introduced. It was the most obvious answer. Yo-Yo and Joey were too new, Coulson and May were too important for the show, fans would riot if it were Fitz or Simmons, and too much has been invested into Daisy. The only other real option was Mack but that seemed unlikely as well. Despite the predictability, I also liked the quiet contemplative moment between Hive and Lincoln, reflecting on life and death instead of mindlessly and pointlessly at each others throats.
Hopefully based on the stinger, John Hannah will be at least a reoccurring guest next season, if not a cast member. They do have some holes to fill in.
Isn't he the US Secretary of Defence now? Can't see Coulson handing SHIELD over to him or Talbot given what was said last week. Besides, if they had William Hurt, they would have used him in that scene to get the missile override code.
Speaking of which, regardless of the outcome of what they did, shouldn't Talbot be up for a Court Martial for circumventing the chain of command? The military tend to be sticklers for that kind of thing.
Anyway, my money is on May as the new Director.
They'd have to admit that someone took control of their missile to punish someone for saving them.
SoD is a political appointment, not an elected position.
The Prez can fire any of his secretaries for almost no reason?
SoD is a political appointment, not an elected position.
The Prez can fire any of his secretaries for almost no reason?
Chloe Bennet is a force of nature!
Every actor dreams of getting a juicy role like that, that lets them wring out their emotions. Damn, she sure got wrung this week. And - a hero with human weakness. The "take me back" scene was horrifying and heartbreaking.
Did... did Fitz have a cloaked pistol?!?!
Every actor dreams of getting a juicy role like that, that lets them wring out their emotions. Damn, she sure got wrung this week. And - a hero with human weakness. The "take me back" scene was horrifying and heartbreaking.
Did... did Fitz have a cloaked pistol?!?!
They showed the newspaper headlines of the destruction Quake had caused, and they looked like it was used as a name and not just shortened earthquake for a headline. I figure the entire Coulson crew is out as the Director as they are too close to the BAMF Inhuman Quake and his insistence of hiding from the Serkovia Accords. Part of the UN Avengers support crew Maria Hill or General Talbot being more than the public face of the ATCU and being flipped above Coulson are my preseason beats.
It is complete Daisy/Quake is the MCU Magneto
He was Secretary of State he seemed very down in the weeds in Civil War,
sure he would make the official contact with The Avengers but to be on scene at the prison
You can't hand over what you don't control, Pres. Ellis might hand it over. And Talbot can be a Major again!
And science hunch was a great line. Maybe John Hanna can be the new Doctor, but he's not British, is he?
And damn you show! I couldn't stand Lincoln for a long time, and then when I've come around to liking him....
I guess this show isn't afraid of clearing out and changing things. They got rid of quite a bit of characters recently.
I got the feeling the 6 months later was a "mid credits" scene and the final tag was the "after credits" scene as set by most of the MCU movies. Whether there is any accuracy in this is dubious, but that's my impression. The "show" ended before those two scenes.
Did anyone think that the person Quake wanted the family to meet was Mr. Hyde?
John Hannah is Scotish so he definitely could. I would love to see his take on the role.
Yes, absolutely. The first headline was ambiguous -- "Quake causes such-and-such" -- but then another headline said "Who is Quake?", removing all doubt that they're talking about a person.
No question. She said he liked animals, and Cal is a vet in his new identity.
A Scottish Doctor? Why, that could never possibly happen!
So next season's going to be about Life Model Decoys?
It was odd that John Hannah pronounced AIDA's name as "aid-uh" instead of the way it's usually pronounced, "Ah-ee-duh."
I loved the game of hot potato with the necklace. Mack had it. Fitz had it. Daisy had it. Yo-Yo was all like "hell no, I ain't taking that back!"
I'll also agree with many others here, I loved that final Ward/Lincoln scene. Just floating there, peacefully waiting for the end. Beautiful. But I'll ask a question nobody seems to have brought up yet. Could one or both of them have survived? This is a comic book show after all. Besdies the obvious LMD tag scene, there are other options. Could Lincoln have turned into the Living Lightning or something like that? Once you start looking at all the crazy possibilities, the possible escapes from death are endless.
Though seriously, I expect that's the last we'll see of either character on the show.
Also, LMD's! Nice to see Radcliff sticking with the good guys.
My first two thoughts when Coulson mentioned a new director were May and Talbot's mustache, in that order. (You can tell by his mustache that he's a man of importance and not to be trifled with.)
I also found the six months later tag to be pretty jarring. It's like they just swept all of season 3 under the rug and told us to forget about everything we were invested in. "Time for something completely different!"
Anyone else kind of get the sense that that scene would have been perfect to set up a show along the lines of Marvel's Most Wanted if they had just tweaked it a tiny bit?
And yes, Daisy was clearly talking about her dad. And yes, she looked attractive.
I'll also agree with many others here, I loved that final Ward/Lincoln scene. Just floating there, peacefully waiting for the end. Beautiful. But I'll ask a question nobody seems to have brought up yet. Could one or both of them have survived? This is a comic book show after all. Besdies the obvious LMD tag scene, there are other options. Could Lincoln have turned into the Living Lightning or something like that? Once you start looking at all the crazy possibilities, the possible escapes from death are endless.
Though seriously, I expect that's the last we'll see of either character on the show.
Also, LMD's! Nice to see Radcliff sticking with the good guys.
My first two thoughts when Coulson mentioned a new director were May and Talbot's mustache, in that order. (You can tell by his mustache that he's a man of importance and not to be trifled with.)
I also found the six months later tag to be pretty jarring. It's like they just swept all of season 3 under the rug and told us to forget about everything we were invested in. "Time for something completely different!"
Anyone else kind of get the sense that that scene would have been perfect to set up a show along the lines of Marvel's Most Wanted if they had just tweaked it a tiny bit?
And yes, Daisy was clearly talking about her dad. And yes, she looked attractive.
I think that would cheapen it. And I don't think it's the sort of direction these showrunners would want to go.
Besides, Ward's story has gone through so many convolutions to keep him involved in the show that adding yet one more, after such a decisive ending, would border on the farcical. It's time to finally let him go.
I liked this one a lot.
Chloe Bennett really did a great job in this one. I liked her enhancing her punches with her powers in the fight with Hive, I don't think we've ever seen her do that.
Hive's real appearance was a great effect. It really amazes me how far TV effects have come the last few years.
It cracked me up how they kept passing around the the cross.
I liked Lincoln, but I'm not to sad to see him go. I almost felt worse for Daisy than I did for Lincoln dying. I figured once he was talking about leaving S.H.I.E.L.D. that he might be the one to go. That last scene with him and Hive was one of my favorite scenes we've gotten in the entire series. I think that was a more interesting death scene than if we'd gotten some kind of big fight.
I loved Radcliffe working with S.H.I.E.L.D. I'm glad he seems to be sticking around.
Those last two scenes were intriguing. Is there any significance to the name AIDA in the comics? I know he used the LMD process, but the fact that it was a body for her makes me doubt we'll be seeing a familiar face for her.
After everything she went through I can understand Daisy going rogue, but I'd like to think it's more complicated than that. I'm very curious to see who the new director will be.
Chloe Bennett really did a great job in this one. I liked her enhancing her punches with her powers in the fight with Hive, I don't think we've ever seen her do that.
Hive's real appearance was a great effect. It really amazes me how far TV effects have come the last few years.
It cracked me up how they kept passing around the the cross.
I liked Lincoln, but I'm not to sad to see him go. I almost felt worse for Daisy than I did for Lincoln dying. I figured once he was talking about leaving S.H.I.E.L.D. that he might be the one to go. That last scene with him and Hive was one of my favorite scenes we've gotten in the entire series. I think that was a more interesting death scene than if we'd gotten some kind of big fight.
I loved Radcliffe working with S.H.I.E.L.D. I'm glad he seems to be sticking around.
Those last two scenes were intriguing. Is there any significance to the name AIDA in the comics? I know he used the LMD process, but the fact that it was a body for her makes me doubt we'll be seeing a familiar face for her.
After everything she went through I can understand Daisy going rogue, but I'd like to think it's more complicated than that. I'm very curious to see who the new director will be.
I like that idea. Talbot or Hill would be my top choices.
