It IS very pro-Laurel, but it's also from someone who is an unapologetic Olicity fan, and is a very objective analysis of the character's arc on the show.
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It IS very pro-Laurel, but it's also from someone who is an unapologetic Olicity fan, and is a very objective analysis of the character's arc on the show.
While it started out with some interesting points, I really didn't see it as an objective analysis. It quickly seemed to turn into repetitive babbling and I couldn't even finish it. To each his own I guess.
Before you said the author isn't a Laurel fan, now you say it's very pro-Laurel. I don't get it.
to use an analogy from the story doing the rounds - it's like Laura Bush (wife Of George W. Bush) supporting Hilary Clinton. Normally would be totally opposed by in this instance comes out in support.
It's a pro-Laurel article written by someone who isn't a fan of the character.
How hard, really, is that to understand?
Whatever. Like I said, I'm not invested in an argument about this. I just voiced an opinion in passing and got dragged into something I'm not really interested in.
I wasn't trying to start an argument, so let's move on.
Okay, I broke down and watched the latest ep, and yeah, setting up a mystery S5 plot point with Laurel's last request just as the mystery grave plot point was about to be wrapped up was lame.
I'd skipped the last few eps, but seeing Digg defending his brother just as ferociously as he declared him a lost cause earlier this season... it's soap opera tripe, plain and simple, and it's also lame. I think a key problem is the show has become too serialized. S1/2 had lots of baddies I've completely forgotten about, but that doesn't mean they weren't worth an episode here or there, and some, like the family of robbers, the clock guy, the drug kingpin, the pyromaniac and the dollmaker were pretty good. The Flash continues to do villains of the week as well as tell its Big Bad story, and they provide a welcome change of pace. Of course, one can argue they have more to work with, metahuman-wise, and they're not in their fourth season yet, but man, everything about Andy has been dull and lame since his un-deadening.
I am also starting to HATE the phrase "s/he's lost a lot of blood". Most overused TV phrase of the millennium. The doctor took one look at Laurel and said it. She's fully clothed! How the hell do you know that?!
I'd skipped the last few eps, but seeing Digg defending his brother just as ferociously as he declared him a lost cause earlier this season... it's soap opera tripe, plain and simple, and it's also lame. I think a key problem is the show has become too serialized. S1/2 had lots of baddies I've completely forgotten about, but that doesn't mean they weren't worth an episode here or there, and some, like the family of robbers, the clock guy, the drug kingpin, the pyromaniac and the dollmaker were pretty good. The Flash continues to do villains of the week as well as tell its Big Bad story, and they provide a welcome change of pace. Of course, one can argue they have more to work with, metahuman-wise, and they're not in their fourth season yet, but man, everything about Andy has been dull and lame since his un-deadening.
I am also starting to HATE the phrase "s/he's lost a lot of blood". Most overused TV phrase of the millennium. The doctor took one look at Laurel and said it. She's fully clothed! How the hell do you know that?!
No doubt from the externally recognizable symptoms of hypovolemic shock (i.e. shock from low blood volume), such as blue lips and nails, shallow breathing, profuse sweating, weak and rapid pulse, cool and clammy skin, etc. Doctors are trained to recognize things that laypeople wouldn't think to look for.
So, Thea is dating Liam Hemsworth?
I thought Oliver made a good call to out Laurel as the Black Canary in order to preserve her memory, especially following the imposter's rampaging and vengeful actions.
Everyone went through the different stages of loss: Felicity was depressed, Quentin was in denial, Diggle was angry and overcome with guilt (bargaining) "If only I had listened to Ollie, Laurel would still be alive." Quentin was the last one to accept the fact that Laurel was gone.
Barry apologized for being late to the funeral, though I noticed he had his superspeed. I wonder if this was before he was forced to give his speed to Zoom or after his powers are eventually restored.
Everyone went through the different stages of loss: Felicity was depressed, Quentin was in denial, Diggle was angry and overcome with guilt (bargaining) "If only I had listened to Ollie, Laurel would still be alive." Quentin was the last one to accept the fact that Laurel was gone.
Barry apologized for being late to the funeral, though I noticed he had his superspeed. I wonder if this was before he was forced to give his speed to Zoom or after his powers are eventually restored.
This year had lots of synchronization issues between episodes from different series.
I like how Lance's reaction acknowledges how an ordinary person facing grief would react to living in a comic-book universe with constant resurrections. It does kind of make the acceptance stage hard.
Those old scenes at the end seemed incredibly off and obviously prerecorded before they had any idea who was in the grave and what this episode would even be like.
I mean, the whole episode was about how heroes shouldn't give in to anger and should act better than villains and all that and then at the end those old scenes are essentially "Fuck it, let's just kill him."
I mean, the whole episode was about how heroes shouldn't give in to anger and should act better than villains and all that and then at the end those old scenes are essentially "Fuck it, let's just kill him."
For the first time time in 4 seasons I did not watch last nights episode. I stopped recording it on my DVR. Its much more than Laurel's death. The writing has really gotten bad on this show. I have been watching it out of habit too long. It rarely entertains me now. Meaningless flashbacks. Foreshadowing a death all season had no purpose. A real shock would have for her death to have really come out of no where. Without funeral scenes that only lead to pointless speculation. Nothing else. There is so much more. Its been discussed in the past.
I will continue follow in a limited way news and spoilers on future episodes. Maybe I will watch again if something catches my interest. The crossover episodes probably at most.
I will continue follow in a limited way news and spoilers on future episodes. Maybe I will watch again if something catches my interest. The crossover episodes probably at most.
^The flashbacks this week were meaningful, since they were to the gap between seasons 1 & 2, with Oliver and Laurel coping with Tommy's death, rather than to the island stuff.
A couple of trivia notes about the doctor: Her name was Dr. Schwartz, presumably a nod to legendary DC editor Julius Schwartz. And she was played by Venus Terzo, who voiced Jean Grey in X-Men Evolution.
A couple of trivia notes about the doctor: Her name was Dr. Schwartz, presumably a nod to legendary DC editor Julius Schwartz. And she was played by Venus Terzo, who voiced Jean Grey in X-Men Evolution.
Ok, I will admit that sounds interesting to me. I wish they would do more of this. Random, non linear stories from Oliver past. Or even other character's past too. But only when they have a really solid story to tell. Not needlessly tied to a format of weekly flashbacks of filling 5 years worth of time.
Well, look on the bright side: If the show makes it to season 6, you'll probably get your wish.
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