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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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I thought Prelude was boring, poorly written and wasn't much more than a cheesy cut pulled from some late night B flick. The upside was Hatch and Graham's acting ability but other than that it played more like a voice over the top of some video game. My first thought was, "not bad for a start up and a 2 grand budget with some good VFX talent"
So if that was Prelude, what's the real movie going to be, 20 ships a minute blowing up in some super cool TNG Wolf style battle?
I guess that's the fascination I've had over this lawsuit, people talk like they have done something awesome and are some sort of threat to CBS/Paramount and the Star Trek franchise. There has to be a whole lot more than just IP infringement going on here.
I thought Prelude was boring, poorly written and wasn't much more than a cheesy cut pulled from some late night B flick. The upside was Hatch and Graham's acting ability but other than that it played more like a voice over the top of some video game. My first thought was, "not bad for a start up and a 2 grand budget with some good VFX talent"
So if that was Prelude, what's the real movie going to be, 20 ships a minute blowing up in some super cool TNG Wolf style battle?
I guess that's the fascination I've had over this lawsuit, people talk like they have done something awesome and are some sort of threat to CBS/Paramount and the Star Trek franchise. There has to be a whole lot more than just IP infringement going on here.
So that's what makes it so good?"Prelude..." cost a hundred-grand.
Way over budget is setting an awful low bar for awesome....lol
No, I'll disagree with you there. I found it interesting and fairly well written / played. I really wanted to see the full film. I still do. But I simply can not support it in the current state. I would honestly love it if CBS could somehow take over the project and do it right. That would, of course, mean that Mr. Peters and probably a few others would be kicked off the project.
Probably just not my thing.
hm, if he said that, more grist for CBS/P and bloggers...
That could be a reason. Whether any maneuvering like this matters in the end probably depends on lawsuits present and future. Can they present a formula that gets a lawsuit settlement and leaves donors feeling they were "protected" from CBS/P "stealing" the funds, and somehow offer something to the Axanar management that can induce them to go along? The horsetrading is probably pretty interesting. As always, follow the money.
Hahaha. No. Just no.
I found it interesting because it used a storytelling device that Trek hadn't used before with the faux documentary. But I seriously doubt the main Axanar film would've been any better than the majority of fan films. It probably would've been worse when you consider the amount of money it was going to cost to make.
Definitely not turning on anyone. Just urging an overstated posting be removed, and it was.
Indeed - I also thought it good and great fun to watch
I found it interesting that reputable actors were committing to it. It made me think that they had seen something in the overall story that was worthy of the respect they have garnered among their fans, and in their overall careers. All the studio-building aside, I have always felt that if they had had a dazzling moving story and people knew it, if it wasn't just pew pew, then a lot more parties might have gotten on board with trying to find a way to help it survive and avoid the shenanigans, even if it meant finding a way to push on Alec.
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Wait. No. Have I given the impression I meant the reimbursed donor funds might somehow become a partial refund to the donors? If I did, I so do apologize. So while I didn't state it I do think the reimbursement will go, or be planned to go, straight & finally, into getting that film made. Or a revised version of it anyway if everything doesn't go completely sideways for the production.
But, okay, thinking about that I can picture that in some weird turn of events with the court an outcome that somehow returning money to donors.... I guess that scenario is not totally inconceivable to me. I wasn't thinking that direction yet because I am still leaning toward W&S pulling something off that will avoid total liquidation. Maybe not leaning that way as much as I was, but I don't know, I still think they're not going to get a total 'lose' on the case. But the studios are really hanging firm so far aren't they - even though someone - Oh, it was Carlos in the Trekzone Pt 2 video. He mentioned he has credible information that the studios & production 'are' talking to each other.
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I suspect some of them saw a paycheck.
Or at least did have one such talk, however fruitless.
Actually closer to $123,000."Prelude..." cost a hundred-grand.
I don't, especially if he's doing this for free. He's helping out someone who shouldn't be helped.
Bowden is the only one with a head on his shoulders and more than two working brain cells who realizes just what a royal C.F. this project has become and is trying to fix it (my take of the second part of that interview recently posted). As far as Alec or whoever else not deserving the help, yeah, you and I are in complete agreement (his big mouth and toxic personality will most likely cause him to hang himself at trial no matter what Bowden does)
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