Early Feb., IIRC. There'd be more details backthread.Hells yeah. When did the incredible hulk start coming on metv?
Early Feb., IIRC. There'd be more details backthread.Hells yeah. When did the incredible hulk start coming on metv?
Yes...nice location continuity for once, and in airdate order!Picking up where "The Hulk Breaks Las Vegas" left off, Banner is still in Nevada, heading to Carson City
I wonder how small that payload of smuggled components would be today....(NOTE: in 1978, most large computer components were expensive, at a time when such parts were barely being added to commercial & industrial interests on a large scale).
A very memorable bit...I vaguely remembered that one over the years without remembering any other specifics of the episode that it came from.Funny moment: David mutters that he needs to buy shirts that stretch
Yes, he can land passenger jets and engage in car chases...he even seems to put the car in park before he smashes out, as it doesn't start rolling...!As established in "747," Banner can maintain some control over vehicles while turning into the Hulk.
Ah...hadn't caught that detail about her now being able to collect insurance on the truck. And I believe that David's duffel bag went down in that flaming wreck, though at least the coda explains how David gets new gear in this case.then push the red car into the truck, leading to its destruction--and the means Joanie needed to collect on the truck's insurance policy.
TREK_GOD_1 said:I always found Spielberg's position making him to be one of the biggest hypocrites in movie history, since he had absolutely no respect for intellectual property when (for just one career example) blatantly stealing some camera shots, set design and costuming from the Charlton Heston adventure film Secret of the Incas (Paramount, 1954) for Raiders of the Lost Ark (Paramount, 1981), which he admitted screening while in production on Raiders. I did not buy the latter day, revisionist notion that Spielberg (and George Lucas, for that matter) sticky-fingering old serials, dramas, fantasies, etc. is just an "homage" to the work, rather than being (in some cases) gross appropriation.
This seems to be another episode without a specific alias for David, unless I missed it.
I wonder how small that payload of smuggled components would be today....
That's a ridiculous comparison. Painting your own imitation of the Mona Lisa is not the same thing as stealing the actual Mona Lisa. It may be unoriginal, but you're entitled to possess it because it's the product of your own effort. Professionals don't just care about abstract ideas but about the actual labor they perform and their right to credit and compensation for that labor.
.(Not that Hulk actually stole anything, since Universal had the contractual right to reuse the Duel footage -- but Spielberg evidently found the terms of the contract to be larcenous.)
Spielberg and his Raiders crew may have emulated an earlier work, but they created a new version of it through their own labor, so it's very different from just cutting pre-existing footage into a film
but they created a new version of it through their own labor, so it's very different from just cutting pre-existing footage into a film
This is the middle of a 5-episode run where every other episode is built around stock footage. Two weeks ago we had "747," and two weeks hence we have "Earthquakes Happen," built around footage from the 1974 disaster epic Earthquake. How tight must the first-season budget have been that they had to do this three times?
I'm of the impression that it wouldn't have been a matter of tight budget so much as realistic TV budget...they had a catalog of major films from which they could draw footage that they never could have afforded to shoot on a TV budget, so they built episodes around that footage...an innovative way of giving the new show more bang for its buck.
"Never Give a Trucker an Even Break"--
I always found Spielberg's position making him to be one of the biggest hypocrites in movie history, since he had absolutely no respect for intellectual property when (for just one career example) blatantly stealing some camera shots, set design and costuming from the Charlton Heston adventure film Secret of the Incas (Paramount, 1954) for Raiders of the Lost Ark (Paramount, 1981), which he admitted screening while in production on Raiders. I did not buy the latter day, revisionist notion that Spielberg (and George Lucas, for that matter) sticky-fingering old serials, dramas, fantasies, etc. is just an "homage" to the work, rather than being (in some cases) gross appropriation. Additionally, I reject the idea that mentioning ripped work as an "influence" does not remove the kind of acts committed by the same guy who threw a fit about Duel.
What exactly did Spielperg use from this other movie? Did he use footage from it or something? I always knew it was an homage to old movies, but I never heard of him stealing from them directly.Film was and remains a business first, hence the clear business decision to not allow the work they owned to be controlled / manipulated by what were hired hands. Spielberg's ego took a back seat to the contract he obviously did not read or understand at the time, otherwise, there would be no false notion of it being "larcenous," because it would be clear he had no ownership of / control over the work that Universal--at any time--could use for any purpose beyond its original form.
Regarding your defense of Spielberg in the Raiders matter, this is about absent ethical behavior, and how that influences actions.
So let's get this straight--he can comeback years later to find the terms of an accepted contract "larcenous" (which he did not sign under protest), yet he built much of his formative career off of shameless stealing from the works of others (like Secret of the Incas), without feeling an ounce of compunction. Its just making "a new version." Er...no.
"Own labor" does not remove the fact that original work (the guilty did not own) was appropriated for their own use (and profit). The motives are not dissimilar to infamous cases in popular music--the most recent example being Led Zeppelin's Plant and Page now having to defend themselves in court over allegations of stealing much of "Stairway to Heaven" from the Spirit song, "Taurus." Plant and Page will likely argue that they too, "created a new version of it through their own labor," (which would require they finally admit to the clear as day lift), but it would be surprising if their arguments held up in court at all.
What exactly did Spielperg use from this other movie? Did he use footage from it or something? I always knew it was an homage to old movies, but I never heard of him stealing from them directly.
At -23:18, -"I don't have twenty-five cents!!!".
Still, this is a pretty fun episode, with comic highlights including a phone-rage Hulk-out and "I really have to buy shirts that stretch." (Why didn't he ever act on that?)
What exactly did Spielperg use from this other movie? Did he use footage from it or something? I always knew it was an homage to old movies, but I never heard of him stealing from them directly.
If he were out in the open--I can see that. When driving, or grabbing his knee if hit there say--he probably isn't worried about his wardrobe. I've had to change a tire myself while taking my lady friend and her family out. She fussed about the sweat and the dirt on the pants. "Gee I wonder how that happened?"
"This was actor Frank Christi's (Ted with the mustache) second part opposite Bill Bixby,"
I thought it was Dennis Farina at first.
Just enough like Dennis Weaver. His friend would duck down--so as to use footage of Weaver alone in the car. Bixby drove for a bit--also wearing a shirt similar to Weaver. It was stitched together rather well I must say.
Hmm... couldn't they have simply done a slow zoom on some exposed skin (maybe with appropriate rippling muscles) and gradually added a green effect?And of course, the show needed him not to learn to cope with his changes in any way, even sartorially. The clothes-tearing shots were the only way they were technologically capable at the time of conveying that David's body was getting larger. Morphing effects were still a decade or so in the future.
I still don't see the issue here. Spielberg and Lucas were always very open about the fact that it was an homage to old serials. There's a big difference between borrowing some elements from an old movie, and using footage from a director's movie without their permission. Sure he signed the contract and gave up his rights, but I still can see why he'd be pissed.Costumes, scene set ups, and more to the point where no ethical filmmaker would dare claim originality after such obvious, gross appropriation. He did not help his case when he screened the Heston film while in production on Raiders. That is not "making it his own," an homage, or the ethically bankrupt notion that it was creating something new from his own labor, as if that removes the fact that so much of the structure and/or look of the work would not exist if not for the aforementioned gross appropriation.
His whining about Duel footage in The Incredible Hulk makes Spielberg appear to be a hypocrite--in addition to the fact he had no legal grounds to complain, as if he was entitled to control any part of the TV movie.
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