Nicholas Meyer Confirms Upcoming 4K UHD Release Plans for STAR TREK II: THE WRATH OF KHAN
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Just for informational purposes........
This thread title is basically wrong. (Not the fault of the OP)
They have NOT announced TWOK on UHD.
The release we are talking about that is coming out on June 7, is a 4K restoration of the Director's cut on Blu-ray of TWOK---which had never been released on Blu-ray before.
It is taken from a new 4K scan of the negative and has the HDR "10-bit" process.
It is supposed to have better color and detail than the previous Blu-ray of the theatrical.
So anybody has been wanting the DC on Blu-ray this is what you have been waiting for. I have anyway.!!!
So nobody has to invest in a new TV or player to enjoy this new release---unless you don't have a Blu-ray player at all.
Oh, and it does contain BOTH versions of the movie and ALL the previous features from both the 2002 DVD and the 2009 Blu-ray.
So if does happen to be a better transfer---those who prefer the Theatrical will get some benefit as well.
This thread title is basically wrong. (Not the fault of the OP)
They have NOT announced TWOK on UHD.
The release we are talking about that is coming out on June 7, is a 4K restoration of the Director's cut on Blu-ray of TWOK---which had never been released on Blu-ray before.
It is taken from a new 4K scan of the negative and has the HDR "10-bit" process.
It is supposed to have better color and detail than the previous Blu-ray of the theatrical.
So anybody has been wanting the DC on Blu-ray this is what you have been waiting for. I have anyway.!!!
So nobody has to invest in a new TV or player to enjoy this new release---unless you don't have a Blu-ray player at all.
Oh, and it does contain BOTH versions of the movie and ALL the previous features from both the 2002 DVD and the 2009 Blu-ray.
So if does happen to be a better transfer---those who prefer the Theatrical will get some benefit as well.
The new BD will only be in 2K, sourced from a 4K scan -- there probably won't be a 4K UHD release for some time yet. Basically it's at the same resolution-level as the 2009 Blu-Ray, simply with a newer scan. That said, they definitely could (and undoubtedly will) fix the DNR issues and other color-correction problems that plagued the 2009 version, which would make a future UHD release very sweet to contemplate.
I'll buy the new version in June. I originally liked the too-blue look of TWOK on the 2009 blu-ray but now it annoys me that my only copy left of this movie doesn't look like it should.
Was in a large retail store yesterday and was shocked to see DVDs for sale of Star Trek movies and 'Double Feature' movies on DVD format for ~$5. Can't believe there is still a DVD market for this.
Was in a large retail store yesterday and was shocked to see DVDs for sale of Star Trek movies and 'Double Feature' movies on DVD format for ~$5. Can't believe there is still a DVD market for this.
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Why wouldn't there be?
Duplication and production costs of DVDs are tiny now, once you've mastered the disc, it's pennies to make more. The main issue for me is why digital downloads often carry a premium price. If they want to reduce piracy, why does it cost more to buy a film as a download than a DVD?
I know, it's still the same with some ebook sales, VAT is included on all UK ebooks, which only started going below the maximum retail price of the physical book recently, and even then not always.
Digital games on PSN still cost about 20% more than the Bluray hardcopy of the game.
Over here the SD download of a film from iTunes or Amazon is the same price as the DVD. But the same with digital HD being 720 and the Bluray 1080, the SD copy is about 500-640p and lower than the DVD quality.
So DVD is still the second best option for immediately owning a movie that doesn't come with the added cost of a Bluray player. Whereas DVD is still standard in most laptops, cheap players, TV "built-in's" and so on. And some people are still on enough of a budget to not be able to afford HD all the way.
Digital games on PSN still cost about 20% more than the Bluray hardcopy of the game.
Over here the SD download of a film from iTunes or Amazon is the same price as the DVD. But the same with digital HD being 720 and the Bluray 1080, the SD copy is about 500-640p and lower than the DVD quality.
So DVD is still the second best option for immediately owning a movie that doesn't come with the added cost of a Bluray player. Whereas DVD is still standard in most laptops, cheap players, TV "built-in's" and so on. And some people are still on enough of a budget to not be able to afford HD all the way.
IIRC the main issue surrounding ebooks is that whilst physical books are easy to categorise and zero-rate, ebooks are digital services, and therefore standard-rated. It's the same with music and video downloads, but obviously they are standard-rated anyway. Something needs to be done, but I suspect highstreet bookshops are resistant to losing their VAT advantage in the fact of online retailers undercutting them already.
With films I tend to just rent from Google Play or wherever, if it's not already on Netflix. They frequently do free or reduced rental deals, and most films I'm not going to need to see more than once. If I like it enough, I buy the Blu-ray.
With films I tend to just rent from Google Play or wherever, if it's not already on Netflix. They frequently do free or reduced rental deals, and most films I'm not going to need to see more than once. If I like it enough, I buy the Blu-ray.
I think it was in Shatner's Movie Memories book, but it's at home and I'm not.
Yes, it just struck me as really weird how he seemed to be in the middle of talking about Merritt and the character of David and then just paused and mentioned that he died of the disease. Like he stopped his train of thought and just threw that in. It came off as really odd. But I thought for sure he was giving an actual interview with someone rather than mentioning in a book. I was talking to someone and mentioned it and they said it sounded like a made up story. But I'm 99% sure I saw the interview.
I guess I was surprised to see DVDs at all. I guess I don't shop much in stores either any longer. I really thought all would be Blu-ray disc by now. DVD replaced VHS very quickly. Blu-ray seems to be slower on the uptake. $5 is a great deal by the way for that much entertainment!
Blu-ray is far more niche, as the increase in quality is incremental over DVD, whereas DVD was a transformative upgrade on VHS. It's also come along when people have easy access to streaming and downloads.
As Tomalak said, the difference between blu and DVD is far smaller than DVD and VHS. I still get DVDs (and I own a blu ray player!) - numerous reasons, not on topic for this thread.
But it really isn't. The jump from SD to 1080p is far greater than the jump from VHS to DVD was. When we're talking in technical terms. The fact that it is the same type of media is misleading.
An interesting bit of coincidence between this release and Independence Day.
Both movies were originally released on what many would call 'average' BluRays that lacked in presentation and were missing their alternative cuts. Yet both are seeing new BluRay releases this year.
But the real kicker here is that even before the new BluRay for Independence Day will be released, Fox has already announced a 4K UHD set that will be released a month later with both cuts being presented in 4K. Curious to see how long it will take Paramount to follow suit.
What makes me curious about this announcement is that the set will come with the UHD disk AND the two regular BluRay discs featured on the new set (plus the digital copy). When I look back on Star Trek II's new BluRay release, it looks to cram every single bit of data onto one BluRay disc vs. Independence Day's new 2-disc set. Why is this a big deal? Bit rates. The more data there is, the better the picture can look. If you take Universal's bare bones BluRay release of "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" and compare that with The Criterion Collection's BluRay release, the Universal disc actually features better picture quality than the latter. And like this new TWOK disc, everything seems to be crammed onto one disc. Since the UHD releases of JJ's new Star Trek movies have only the movie on the disc (with a simple audio commentary for the 09 film), I'm almost tempted to wait for the potential UHD release of TWOK.
Now you're probably wondering "Jeyl, wouldn't UHD look better than regular BluRay anyways?". Sure, but if the recent titles that have been released on UHD are any indication, we will most likely not have all those bonus features on the disc to take up all that disc space. That detail alone would could give it a presentation edge than it would have had if the Bonus Features were included on it. The less space you have to work with, the more restricted your presentation is going to be. And oh, I've watched so many DVDs/BluRays over the years to know the difference between a transfer that looks bad due to the source, and a transfer that looks bad due to the compression.
Both movies were originally released on what many would call 'average' BluRays that lacked in presentation and were missing their alternative cuts. Yet both are seeing new BluRay releases this year.
- The BluRays will include the extended cuts of the film for the first time in High Def.
- Each version is remastered in 4k.
- Both are tied in with the Anniversary of their respected IPs (ID4 for it's 20th, STII for Star Trek's 50th)
- The only new feature is a '30 minute documentary'.
- Most (if not all) of the bonus material will be included.
But the real kicker here is that even before the new BluRay for Independence Day will be released, Fox has already announced a 4K UHD set that will be released a month later with both cuts being presented in 4K. Curious to see how long it will take Paramount to follow suit.
What makes me curious about this announcement is that the set will come with the UHD disk AND the two regular BluRay discs featured on the new set (plus the digital copy). When I look back on Star Trek II's new BluRay release, it looks to cram every single bit of data onto one BluRay disc vs. Independence Day's new 2-disc set. Why is this a big deal? Bit rates. The more data there is, the better the picture can look. If you take Universal's bare bones BluRay release of "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" and compare that with The Criterion Collection's BluRay release, the Universal disc actually features better picture quality than the latter. And like this new TWOK disc, everything seems to be crammed onto one disc. Since the UHD releases of JJ's new Star Trek movies have only the movie on the disc (with a simple audio commentary for the 09 film), I'm almost tempted to wait for the potential UHD release of TWOK.
Now you're probably wondering "Jeyl, wouldn't UHD look better than regular BluRay anyways?". Sure, but if the recent titles that have been released on UHD are any indication, we will most likely not have all those bonus features on the disc to take up all that disc space. That detail alone would could give it a presentation edge than it would have had if the Bonus Features were included on it. The less space you have to work with, the more restricted your presentation is going to be. And oh, I've watched so many DVDs/BluRays over the years to know the difference between a transfer that looks bad due to the source, and a transfer that looks bad due to the compression.
