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Any Stargate fans?

Riverside2233

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I just finished the entire 17 season canon between SG-1, Atlantis, and Universe. I'm close to finishing all of the books. I really enjoyed it and it ignited a passion for more science fiction. This whole thing really got started when I came across Firefly and Serenity a few years ago and now I'm hooked.

I've always wanted to get into Star Trek and I'm excited to be starting the canon from the beginning.
 
Wow. Congrats on getting through the Stargate franchise, or most of it. I've watched some of each series (SG-1, Atlantis, and Universe), and I really liked the original film, but there's quite a bit of Stargate (SG-1's first several seasons especially) that I haven't finished.

I did enjoy Stargate. I didn't like it as much as Trek, Babylon 5, or Battlestar Galatica, but still it was an enjoyable franchise, with some nice action adventure and humor. I also liked the use of mythology. It would be cool if there was a revival at some point.
 
Are the books canon or ignored like the cartoon?

I just finished SG-1 (which to me ended with season 8). I've seen most of the episodes 10 times now. Fun fun.

Atlantis and Universe, not so much.
 
Are the books canon or ignored like the cartoon?

I just finished SG-1 (which to me ended with season 8). I've seen most of the episodes 10 times now. Fun fun.

Atlantis and Universe, not so much.[/QUOTE

Most of the SG1 books weave in an out of the series and use the storylines, but there are some stand-alone. Same for Atlantis but they do have about 8 books that continue after Atlantis ended. I wouldn't say they are officially canon because the licensing rights were sold after the first 9 novels, but they are true to the characters and chronologically take place within the series.

I agree with the season 8 ending, although I did watch some Farscape so it was cool to see Ben Browder and Claudia Black in the last seasons of SG-1. Atlantis actually grows on you and Universe seems like it was cut short right when it was becoming interesting.

I do recommend most of the books.
 
Wow. Congrats on getting through the Stargate franchise, or most of it. I've watched some of each series (SG-1, Atlantis, and Universe), and I really liked the original film, but there's quite a bit of Stargate (SG-1's first several seasons especially) that I haven't finished.

I did enjoy Stargate. I didn't like it as much as Trek, Babylon 5, or Battlestar Galatica, but still it was an enjoyable franchise, with some nice action adventure and humor. I also liked the use of mythology. It would be cool if there was a revival at some point.

I heard recently that Roland Emmerich re-bought the rights to it ( since he directed the original film) and they plan to re-do that story from the original, but he wanted to wait until he had finished Independence Day to start writing the next Stargate movie. I'm not sure if they will completely re-invent or what the plan is.
 
They are redoing the franchise with a new trilogy, supposedly. He has several ID4 movies planned in his head but Fox is waiting to see how the second is doing.

Universe was trying to hard to be BSG and it failed, I do agree one more season would have been great to finish it off.

However I hate Atlantis, I hate the creators for the way they treated the actors. Weir was fired then they wondered why she didn't come back one last time. Sam should have never been added in season 4, Amanda Tapping didn't want to do it, but she was under contract (which is why she wasn't in several episodes). It's one of the only shows that got worse with each passing season.

Season 9-10 of SG-1 I consider Stargate Command, being that's what the creators wanted to do but weren't allowed to.
 
When I was first getting into the show, I saw Stargate books on the shelves... but it took me a while to catch on that there were two concurrent series: "Stargate SG-1" (in the continuity of the show) and just plain "Stargate" (following directly on the original movie and ignoring the show altogether). It was a little confusing.

For a number of years now, friends and I have been running a tabletop RPG that's set in the Stargate SG-1 continuity. It isn't Earth-based and the characters have had no direct contact with Earth — but I've done crossovers with quite a few other elements from the show. (So far the setting has progressed between about 1995 and 1998.) The Tok'ra have had a regular presence with a few appearances by Martouf, Jolinar, and Anise. I featured the backstory of Anubis' ascension, the backstory of the monk on Kheb, and how the Tok'ra knew to go looking for Setesh on Earth. One of Machello's anti-Goa'uld gadgets, a new type, has appeared. The Atanik armbands showed up briefly (before the Tok'ra became aware of them). Harlan and the android SG-1 have appeared ... in fact, our adventurers were duplicated before SG-1 was, but Harlan couldn't get those duplicates to work.

Zipacna and Ra showed up a few times (and Ra's death at the hands of the Tau'ri made the news). We had a plotline with an Asgard who was cut off from his people while doing research on clone degeneration. Since we all know how that turned out, I had him make contact with the Vanir in the Pegasus Galaxy and give his research to them instead. Recently I featured how Col. Cromwell survived the fall into the black hole. Cromwell has turned into a pretty popular NPC.

Next a solar flare is going to gate the characters 5000 years into the past where they'll team up with the alternate SG-1 from "Moebius" to fight Ra. (The alternate O'Neill didn't have his run-in with Cromwell in that timeline, so the two of them are going to have their argument for the first time again.) When that's over, it will give the alternate SG-1 a chance to go home.
 
I heard recently that Roland Emmerich re-bought the rights to it ( since he directed the original film) and they plan to re-do that story from the original, but he wanted to wait until he had finished Independence Day to start writing the next Stargate movie. I'm not sure if they will completely re-invent or what the plan is.
Thanks. I had heard about a revival a while ago and then nothing. So that explain why there hasn't been news, they are waiting to see how Independence Day goes. That being said, I hope the television shows aren't completely forgotten. I mean they really fleshed out the Stargate concept and are Stargate for a majority of fans, IMO, more so than the Kurt Russell film.
 
They are redoing the franchise with a new trilogy, supposedly. He has several ID4 movies planned in his head but Fox is waiting to see how the second is doing.

Universe was trying to hard to be BSG and it failed, I do agree one more season would have been great to finish it off.

However I hate Atlantis, I hate the creators for the way they treated the actors. Weir was fired then they wondered why she didn't come back one last time. Sam should have never been added in season 4, Amanda Tapping didn't want to do it, but she was under contract (which is why she wasn't in several episodes). It's one of the only shows that got worse with each passing season.

Season 9-10 of SG-1 I consider Stargate Command, being that's what the creators wanted to do but weren't allowed to.

Didn't know that Amanda Tapping didn't want to do it. I liked Weir, and didn't care for Carter taking over. As the show was going on I thought it would've been better if Carter had been commanding a starship, and be a recurring character, while Michael Beach's Colonel Ellis should have taken over command at Atlantis if they were moving away from Weir.
 
When I was first getting into the show, I saw Stargate books on the shelves... but it took me a while to catch on that there were two concurrent series: "Stargate SG-1" (in the continuity of the show) and just plain "Stargate" (following directly on the original movie and ignoring the show altogether). It was a little confusing.

For a number of years now, friends and I have been running a tabletop RPG that's set in the Stargate SG-1 continuity. It isn't Earth-based and the characters have had no direct contact with Earth — but I've done crossovers with quite a few other elements from the show. (So far the setting has progressed between about 1995 and 1998.) The Tok'ra have had a regular presence with a few appearances by Martouf, Jolinar, and Anise. I featured the backstory of Anubis' ascension, the backstory of the monk on Kheb, and how the Tok'ra knew to go looking for Setesh on Earth. One of Machello's anti-Goa'uld gadgets, a new type, has appeared. The Atanik armbands showed up briefly (before the Tok'ra became aware of them). Harlan and the android SG-1 have appeared ... in fact, our adventurers were duplicated before SG-1 was, but Harlan couldn't get those duplicates to work.

Zipacna and Ra showed up a few times (and Ra's death at the hands of the Tau'ri made the news). We had a plotline with an Asgard who was cut off from his people while doing research on clone degeneration. Since we all know how that turned out, I had him make contact with the Vanir in the Pegasus Galaxy and give his research to them instead. Recently I featured how Col. Cromwell survived the fall into the black hole. Cromwell has turned into a pretty popular NPC.

Next a solar flare is going to gate the characters 5000 years into the past where they'll team up with the alternate SG-1 from "Moebius" to fight Ra. (The alternate O'Neill didn't have his run-in with Cromwell in that timeline, so the two of them are going to have their argument for the first time again.) When that's over, it will give the alternate SG-1 a chance to go home.

I didn't know that about Tapping either. Very interesting. Yeah it was a bit weird with all of the tossing around of the Atlantis characters. I'll give you that. Bringing back Carson Beckett and the whole Michael story arc dragged on and got a bit stale. I heard they were writing a tv movie to try and summarize the ending when they flew back to earth, but they never got around to making it. The "Legacy" literature is an 8-part story that picks up with where Atlantis left off and continues to explore different dynamics of the characters as they journey back to Pegasus. It was not bad. I've been impressed with the writers for the most part.

That is awesome about the RPG. I am just about done with all of the Fandemonium literature and they have stayed true to most of the characters. There was actually a book released a few years ago "Moebius Squared" where they do go back and have to team up with the alternate SG-1. The reason why escapes me right now because I am speeding through everything the first time and I plan to go back.
 
Season 1-8 of SG1 are just fantastic episodic scifi. Season 8 wasn't quite as great as the first seven seasons because the lack of RDA's full commitment reduced the chemistry. But, it's still necessary because it ties up all the main arcs.

I hated season 9-10. The Ori were so overpowered it made the entire show about just finding the next ancient artifact like it started to be in season six. They tried too hard to one up themselves and it eliminated the epic ground battles of the early seasons. It came off to me as facepalmy that after they spent eight years desparately protecting Earth from alien warlords they attracted by exploring without first doing careful recon, they immediately put Earth in just as much danger from even more dangerous aliens the exact same way. Vala seemed oversexualized and really forced from the beginning.

I kind of liked Atlantis at the beginning but it lost my interest quickly.
 
I love Stargate. I binge watched the whole thing a few years ago. I think late S1 - S6 are pretty great. There are obviously diminishing returns after that. Stargate Atlantis I never did finish, but I don't think there was ever the kind of passion that went into SG1. Stargate Universe had two great episodes, and the rest of it was just mediocre. I think it was the only space sci-fi on a the time, so I watched it. That could have been a great show, but the fact that they couldn't stay away from excessive Earth scenes using the stones bothered me.
 
I really enjoyed Atlantis and SG01, and liked Universe. I haven't seen every episode of all three series, but I've seen the majority of them at this point.
I didn't realize there was so much drama behind the scenes at Atlantis, but I did wonder why people seemed to come and go so much.
 
They are redoing the franchise with a new trilogy, supposedly. He has several ID4 movies planned in his head but Fox is waiting to see how the second is doing.

Universe was trying to hard to be BSG and it failed, I do agree one more season would have been great to finish it off.

However I hate Atlantis, I hate the creators for the way they treated the actors. Weir was fired then they wondered why she didn't come back one last time. Sam should have never been added in season 4, Amanda Tapping didn't want to do it, but she was under contract (which is why she wasn't in several episodes). It's one of the only shows that got worse with each passing season.

Season 9-10 of SG-1 I consider Stargate Command, being that's what the creators wanted to do but weren't allowed to.

Not to mention Beckett, which I think seriously back fired with the fans.
 
Not to mention Beckett, which I think seriously back fired with the fans.
I was always kind of 'meh' on SGA, but the show completely lost me when they killed off both Beckett and Weir in season 3. I never watched another episode after that year. (Yeah, technically Weir hadn't died yet, but I knew she was being written out.) When I found out that Carter--one of my least favorite characters--would be joining the show for season 4, that solidified my decision to stop watching.
 
Amanda Tapping didn't want to do it, but she was under contract (which is why she wasn't in several episodes).
More accurately, Amanda Tapping's absence from so many season 4 episodes had more to do with the fact the season was being filmed at the same time as the SG-1 DVD movies, so she had to split her time between the two.
I heard they were writing a tv movie to try and summarize the ending when they flew back to earth, but they never got around to making it.
The Atlantis TV movie Stargate Extinction was basically the planned season 6 premiere script which would have involved moving Atlantis back to the Pegasus for very flimsy reasons.
 
More accurately, Amanda Tapping's absence from so many season 4 episodes had more to do with the fact the season was being filmed at the same time as the SG-1 DVD movies, so she had to split her time between the two.

The Atlantis TV movie Stargate Extinction was basically the planned season 6 premiere script which would have involved moving Atlantis back to the Pegasus for very flimsy reasons.

I guess that is what they attempted to do with the 8-part Legacy literature series from Sally Malcolm and the Fandemonium writers. With the SG1 movies I enjoyed Ark of Truth for the most part and Continuum certainly tied up some loose ends for their story arc.
 
More accurately, Amanda Tapping's absence from so many season 4 episodes had more to do with the fact the season was being filmed at the same time as the SG-1 DVD movies, so she had to split her time between the two.

The Atlantis TV movie Stargate Extinction was basically the planned season 6 premiere script which would have involved moving Atlantis back to the Pegasus for very flimsy reasons.

And also...props on the Avatar picture. I find myself responding "Indeed" to so many people looking for some sort of affirmation.
 
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