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Spoilers DC's Legends of Tomorrow - Season 1

I hated it for the whole fact that the Wells joke uses a totally different type of time travel logic with some predestination involved, which makes the entire show pointless....
 
I hated it for the whole fact that the Wells joke uses a totally different type of time travel logic with some predestination involved, which makes the entire show pointless....

Exactly! I wonder if calling that kid HG Wells was an afterthought.

I would rather them reference other DC characters in the past than stuff like Bill Gates's father and this.
 
The kid would have DIED without Stein's intervention, but Stein only KNEW him because he LIVED and used the name Stein inspired him to use..... its like a bad episode of Quantum Leap all over again. :P
 
Standard excuse when I point out an anachronism: "It's an alternate reality! Anything can happen! On Earth-1, H. G. Wells wrote about ninjas!"

I love how they keep setting up next week's threat as really, really serious this time! Never mind that last week's big, foreshadowed threat turned out to be a few no-name punks who got taken out in a couple of minutes....
 
Salt water vs. fresh water.

If the Time Masters cannot "scan" through this sort of time, fragmentations, that means that the properties of this space time, is beyond their ability to categorize or understand beyond it's "cloudy".

Wikipedia doesn't say anything about Wells going to America in his early life. maybe Wikipedia is wrong, or I should read it better.

Seriously?

In his youth, Welles' father supported the family as an amateur cricket player.

Salvation didn't seem like the sort of place that was horny for 5 day cricket test matches.

(Also, Welles should be 4 years old in 1871, and that did not look like a 4 year old they had playing Welles.)

If they wanted to #### with us, that boy was probably Harrison Welles ancestor, and not related to HG Wells at all.
 
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Rip Hunter is really going to have back problems if he keeps his head down like that all the time. Or maybe there's already something wrong with him and that's why he can't seem to stand up straight.
 
I hated it for the whole fact that the Wells joke uses a totally different type of time travel logic with some predestination involved, which makes the entire show pointless....

Not really. Rip keeps stressing that "time wants to happen," that it's hard to change its course. And this time and place was a "fragmentation" where even the Time Masters didn't know what happened. Maybe that's because it was part of a self-generating time loop.

I hear so many fans insisting that time travel has to work only one way -- that either it always allows changes or it always works by self-consistent loops, and that the two are somehow mutually incompatible. That doesn't make sense. Physics doesn't work the same way in every situation -- it depends on the specific conditions, on the numbers that get plugged into the equations. That's why the same laws of gravity let you float in space but hold you to the ground on Earth. Same physics, different conditions, opposite outcomes. So it's not inconsistent if some time travels alter the known future and others reinforce it. It just depends on the specific circumstances.
 
So whats everyone think about the whole chronos reveal? Unexpected but cool. The show has potential f sure. The whole hawkgirl/atom relationship? Gots to go haha. But hey its the cw.

Waiting f the big twist or cliffhanger to really get my hooked. So far ive watched it its ok but nothing major has really happened with these characters besides heatwave. Anyone else love how captain cold talks? Haha.
 
I loved that Hex knew they were time travelers instantly. I just wish they slipped in a "I've lived an interesting life..."
 
How does Hex's facial disfigurement work? It's like a piece of flesh fell over his mouth and then connected to his chin.

I think this show has a bit of an identity problem. It seems to set up these scenarios with big stakes and moral quandarys and the like yet it seems to just want to be a light entertainment show and not really deal with them in any meaningful way.
 
There's no practical way for Wells (HG, not Harrison) to have been in a Western frontier town in the early 1870s. A quick wiki search shows that while his mum was indeed a maid who was separated from her husband (in order for her to work, thus leaving the kids with their dad), he was the fourth of four kids, pretty poor at the time, and five years old.

Time travel does weird things, though. I blame Booster Gold.

Mark
 
Older Kendra mention that Carter she knew was named Hannibal Hawkes. Hannibal Hawkes was the secret identity of the masked gunslinger Nighthawk. They should bring in more of the DC comics Western characters in the future...or is that in the past?
 
I actually really liked this episode, even with the silly HG Wells reveal (far from the first time travel shenanigan like that). Sure it was super-tropery and the plot didn't do anything really new, but I thought it was a nice character episode overall. I really like new Mick (and the quick shot during the barfight of him drunk under the table by Sarah was great!), and thought they did a nice job with Jonah Hex; would be cool to see him again.

Having no Vandal Savage might have helped, sad as that is.
 
One thing this episode confirmed is that Hawkman & Hawkgirl do not look the same in every lifetime.
Previous to this they were always played by the same actors.
 
Older Kendra mention that Carter she knew was named Hannibal Hawkes. Hannibal Hawkes was the secret identity of the masked gunslinger Nighthawk. They should bring in more of the DC comics Western characters in the future...or is that in the past?
Hannibal Hawks is also a past life of Carter in the comics. Hawkgirl's incarnation was named Cinnamon. Carter's also been The Silent Knight, another of DC`s historical characters.
 
One thing this episode confirmed is that Hawkman & Hawkgirl do not look the same in every lifetime.
Previous to this they were always played by the same actors.

No, we saw a portrait of this woman and "Hannibal Hawkes" showing that they did look like Falk Hentschel and Ciara Renee when they were younger. This actress is just supposed to be representing an older version of Ciara Renee, in the same way that Bruce Willis and Joseph Gordon-Levitt played the same person at different ages in Looper. (Or that Malina Weissman plays the younger version of Melissa Benoist on Supergirl.)
 
I wonder if older Kendra could still "Hawk-out"? And I wonder why Savage didn't still hunt her down after killing that era's Carter.
 
Once again the philosophical problems of time travel fall flat. Apparently it's fine killing a bunch of people with 19th century technology...but it could create all sorts of problems if you cure somebody with 20th century technology...except when you're creating havoc with 21st century+ technology...because nobody would believe it anyway.
 
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