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Actually the Hulk seemed pretty confused and didn't know what to do, needing Kevin to point him toward the right controls.
But he knew enough to stay in his seat and keep pulling the yoke, instead of smashing up the cockpit like you pointed out yourself.

No, only the two coffee cups meant for the pilot and navigator were drugged. Mr. MacIntire took the cup meant for the navigator while Stephanie was distracted.
"That's strange...Jim never has a second cup of coffee at home...."

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I said by 1978, the disaster genre glory days were in the past; the last attention grabbing blockbuster of that genre was The Towering Inferno in 1974 .The Airport series' final, post '78 entry--The Concorde: Airport '79 (Universal, 1979) saw its earnings take a dramatic dip, making less than its production budget--a fate shared by Allen's The Swarm (Warner Bros, 1978).
I wasn't debating the part about the quality dip, but it's not odd that the show borrowed the format, as those films were still very much an ongoing thing at the time. By the same token, they were enough of a thing to inspire a very successful parody that came out two years after this episode....

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Bixby and Cruz--from most available accounts--not only got along famously while making The Courtship of Eddie's Father, but held fond feelings for each other for the rest of Bixby's life.
I used to watch Courtship of Eddie's Father when I was a kid. There was also a comic book put out by Gold Key Comics, which was a huge company in those days and did about 99% of the media tie-ins (along with other licensed material, like Looney Tunes, and some original material, like Magnus, Robot Fighter). That would make a great binge for Decades.

I don't remember which ones they were, but while looking up something relating to one of the previous episodes, I came across a reference to a couple of his TIH guest stars saying that Bixby was their favorite actor to work with.
Bill Bixby was a great guy, and it really came through in all the parts he played, especially Tim O'Hara.

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I love that movie. :rommie:
 
I used to watch Courtship of Eddie's Father when I was a kid.... That would make a great binge for Decades.
Assuming they have the rights to it. That's one of those shows that I've heard of, but never seen in syndication in my life.
 
Assuming they have the rights to it. That's one of those shows that I've heard of, but never seen in syndication in my life.

I do remember seeing Eddie's Father on TV from time to time in my youth, and since I was less than four years old when it was cancelled, it must've been in syndication when I saw it. But it has been absent from the dial for a long time. It is available on manufacture-on-demand DVD from the Warner Archive Collection, so I imagine Warner Bros. has the distribution rights even though it was an MGM production.
 
So does anyone else want to weigh in on whether Denise, Kevin, and Phil should be on the list of people who learn about David being the Hulk? @Christopher doesn't seem to think so, and I'm on the fence as it is debatable how much they gleaned, David didn't confide in them in any way, and they don't seem like people he might have deliberately revisited in his travels, which is more the spirit that I was going for.

At the same time, I'm thinking that the tally of episodes that are cure-related or not should have a third category for episodes that lightly touch upon cure-related activities that don't factor into the main plot.
 
So does anyone else want to weigh in on whether Denise, Kevin, and Phil should be on the list of people who learn about David being the Hulk? @Christopher doesn't seem to think so, and I'm on the fence as it is debatable how much they gleaned, David didn't confide in them in any way, and they don't seem like people he might have deliberately revisited in his travels, which is more the spirit that I was going for.

I think the default on this show is that people who theoretically could have figured it out from circumstantial evidence consistently fail to realize the connection -- in the same way that nobody ever recognizes Superman under Clark's glasses. So we should assume characters don't realize that David becomes the Hulk unless they're explicitly shown to understand it, even when it seems like they really should've figured it out.
 
But he knew enough to stay in his seat and keep pulling the yoke, instead of smashing up the cockpit like you pointed out yourself.

True--he retains some intelligence and understands basic concepts or commands.


I wasn't debating the part about the quality dip, but it's not odd that the show borrowed the format, as those films were still very much an ongoing thing at the time. By the same token, they were enough of a thing to inspire a very successful parody that came out two years after this episode....

Or the producers of Airplane! were just late to the parody party after the genre died--and that's the point, no one really cared anymore. Compare that to the 1960s, when the spy craze launched by the Bond did not take long to inspire Get Smart or the David Niven version of Casino Royale (to name only a few of the flood of spy parodies on film and TV)--jumping on it while the genre was hot and culturally relevant. The same applies to Spaceballs--coming 4 years after the last of the original Star Wars trilogy, and the heat for Star Wars had long faded, replaced by other big sci-fi distractions such as Aliens, Predator, etc.

So, i'm saying just because Airplane! was tackling the plane/disaster genre in 1980, did not mean said genre was relevant to audiences, as Concorde: Airport '79 proved. I think Airplane's success was a random event based on its own merits, not tied to a once-active genre movement.
 
It's similar to the early comics, where Thunderbolt Ross and Major Talbot were constantly coming across Bruce Banner in a dazed and shirtless condition and never wondered what the hell was up with that guy. I mean, Talbot suspected him of being a traitor, sure, but he never stopped to ask, "Hey, Banner, why the heck can't you keep a shirt on?"
 
Even if it was dying, the airplane disaster flick was still a current enough thing for a TV series hungry for story ideas to adapt for one episode. "747" may have been showing up at the party fairly late, but it didn't miss the party entirely. I don't find it an odd choice at all in that respect. It'd be different if the same episode had been done by a show in, say, the mid-'80s.

It's also worth noting (as I recall) that the Airport films were making the rounds on network TV in the same era.
 
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So does anyone else want to weigh in on whether Denise, Kevin, and Phil should be on the list of people who learn about David being the Hulk? @Christopher doesn't seem to think so, and I'm on the fence as it is debatable how much they gleaned, David didn't confide in them in any way, and they don't seem like people he might have deliberately revisited in his travels, which is more the spirit that I was going for.
Did the show ever revisit characters from earlier in David's travels?
 
Off the top off my head, there was a martial arts master who appeared in a couple of episodes...other than that, I don't think so. It's more of a mental exercise on my part for wanting to keep track of these people. If somebody were attempting to fill in the missing years between the series and the TV movies, for example, in licensed or fan fiction, people that David might potentially go back to would have some story potential.
 
Has anyone pointed out yet that Mr. Leggit is played by Howard Honig, who plays a passenger in both Airplane movies? I thought he looked familiar. That just makes it even harder to avoid thinking of Airplane! while watching this.

Even if it was dying, the airplane disaster flick was still a current enough thing for a TV series hungry for story ideas to adapt for one episode. "747" may have been showing up at the party fairly late, but it didn't miss the party entirely. I don't find it an odd choice at all in that respect. It'd be different if the same episode had been done by a show in, say, the mid-'80s.

Sure, it wasn't odd from a production standpoint. The choice of movie footage they wrote scripts around may have been influenced by what movies they had access to. All the ones they used were Universal films, of course, and they probably chose them based on how effectively they could be adapted. I bet this one was chosen on the grounds that it was relatively inexpensive to make, being pretty much a bottle show -- and I'd assume that the 747 sets were themselves recycled from other productions. I wouldn't be surprised if most TV studios had their own aircraft-interior sets available for use by any number of productions as needed.

But it is an odd fit for the Hulk as a premise, because it's a scenario that really constrains what the Hulk can do and conflicts with his usual MO of rampaging and smashing things. I wonder if this is the sort of thing that was occasionally done in the '60s-'80s where a freelancer (or duo) would write a generic script that they could sell to whatever show happened to buy it and then rewrite it to fit that show's specifics. After all, most of its plot beats could've worked just as well in half the other adventure shows on the air at the time, and the emergency landing sequence would really have worked better with just about any series lead.


Off the top off my head, there was a martial arts master who appeared in a couple of episodes...other than that, I don't think so.

Yeah, there were a bunch of actors who had multiple guest appearances (especially Gerald McRaney, who was in four episodes), but as far as I recall, Mako was the only one who recurred as the same character. Even Diana Muldaur, who played David's sister in one episode, played a nun in a later episode.

It's more of a mental exercise on my part for wanting to keep track of these people. If somebody were attempting to fill in the missing years between the series and the TV movies, for example, in licensed or fan fiction, people that David might potentially go back to would have some story potential.

That's one thing that bugged me about the latter two revival movies, Trial of the Incredible Hulk and Death of the Incredible Hulk. They both treated David as someone who was entirely alone in the world, with no one to turn to, even though we'd seen his family alive and well in the series, not to mention the countless friends he'd made. (And given that both those movies were written by Gerald DiPego, it's contradictory that he'd end Trial with Matt Murdock established as a stalwart new friend that David could turn to, then turn around a few months later and portray David as tragically alone and depressed.)
 
Kevin was about the closest this series ever came to Rick from the comics though.

Cabatrol is real: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbamazepine
I would think it might have interacted with the older mans meds--if any.

The 727 is what you want to do a D.B. Cooper--what with that back ramp and all--but no good here--they needed the stock footage from one of the Airport films of course. We will see some footage from Duel soon.

A nice quote:
Sometimes a controller asks us to report when we have left a runway, and we must remember that while we, in the cockpit, have left the runway area, nearly all of the rest of the plane behind us has not.
http://www.airspacemag.com/flight-today/04_sep2015-skyfaring-excerpt-747-article-180956249/

Next up--the 747-8
http://www.airspacemag.com/flight-today/747-worlds-airliner-180951414/?no-ist
http://www.mypilotstore.com/MyPilotStore/sep/10238?gclid=CMS_rLr5hMwCFdgRgQodFeAGBg Lots of good books on this plane

On this episode--I swear to you that I remember Kevin stepping on the Hulk's foot with his sneaker the second time he applied brakes..

In the talk an airplane down episode of Mythbusters--I thought I heard "Don't Think" --it confused Jamie.

It was Don't Sink http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/tech_ops/read.main/40319
 
Did the show ever revisit characters from earlier in David's travels?

Yes. In "Another Path" (season 2), Mako portrayed Li Sung, the blind philosopher David believed would help him. Li Sung also learns about the reason McGee is hunting him. Later that season, Li Sung returned in "The Disciple."

However, not all of David's travels were so accommodating, since he constantly tried to conceal his secret, or caused so much trouble that he never sought reunions with friendly guest characters.
 
Airplane! was actually based on an old movie from the 1950s, so it kind of cast a wider net than 70s disaster movies.

Assuming they have the rights to it. That's one of those shows that I've heard of, but never seen in syndication in my life.
I don't recall it ever being in syndication around here, so I haven't seen it since the 60s. It would be kind of amazing to see it now.
 
I was remembering some things relating to the show that I saw as a kid when it was in first-run, and I came across these, which I thought might be of interest:

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Note that they're shooting the Thanksgiving episode with David's family.

I vaguely recall that this tied in with a talk show format special that Fred Rogers hosted about superheroes, which Bixby might have also appeared on, but I couldn't find it, and it's been a long time, so my memory may be playing tricks on me.
 
The Incredible Hulk
"The Hulk Breaks Las Vegas"
Originally aired Apr. 21, 1978

Don Marshall just doesn't seem to get on well with characters who have greenish complexions, does he?

When I saw "John Crawford" in the credits, I was hoping it would be the former Johnny Crawford from The Rifleman, but it was a different actor.

So is this the first episode in which David's alias isn't specified? I didn't catch a name. At any rate, now that we have three categories for the cure-relatedness of the plot, this one puts "Just schlepping around" in the lead.

This episode features the meatiest role for McGee yet since the pilot, and it gets a lot of mileage out of close calls and teases. One has to wonder if David would have approached McGee at the airport to save his life, had he been in time.

The ambulance scene gives David a chance to show off his undercover doctor skills, though in this case they don't play a direct role in getting him into trouble.

In the boss's office, you had to know that David was gonna get thrown down that stairway...but how smart was it for the boss to just stand there at the top of the steps taunting him without even being able to see what he was doing? If David hadn't been busy changing into the Hulk, he might have stumbled away.

At -22:38, this is the latest first Hulk-Out yet in a regular episode by about 2-1/2 minutes.

David must have forgotten his last experience in a cab...fortunately, there wasn't heavy traffic in those stock shots of Vegas. (The screen work when McGee was driving was particularly obvious.)

At -7:12, the second Hulk-Out is more in line with those in other episodes so far.

The Hulk gets a better chance to show his stuff than usual with the bulldozer. It's interesting how McGee seems to trust that the creature won't hurt him...though it's conveniently out of character for the Hulk to stay there and start changing, especially when the bad guys weren't clearly subdued. But this also gives us our first interrupted change back.

And this time around, they couldn't even bother to film an extra on location for the Lonely Man scene....
 
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