That whole interview with Rod screams that he's an outsider in the process of creating the new series. Just an observation . . .
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That whole interview with Rod screams that he's an outsider in the process of creating the new series. Just an observation . . .
Mr Awe
I wonder if this series is going to go the route of most other popular shows today where there's always the risk of a lead character being killed off.
If so, I just hope it doesn't go into Game of Thrones level insanity. I think it's actually hurt the show now with so many great characters being killed.
If so, I just hope it doesn't go into Game of Thrones level insanity. I think it's actually hurt the show now with so many great characters being killed.
I think that will probably depend on what kind of tone they go for. If they go for a lighthearted fun adventure, I wouldn't expected characters to be killed off constantly. If they go for something a bit darker, I could see the threat of major character deaths being a part of it.
Amazingly less so now that Majel is no longer with us. (she had some history there with some of her produced shows).
I may be completely wrong on this. But I don't think any new show will delve too far into the future, past prior Trek's. The elephant in the room there is a number of Gene's series treatments that explored just that scenario, that then got merged, blended and used for non Trek projects by the family. Gene's Star Trek universe "Phoenix Rising" (I think it was called) morphed into "Andromeda". This might mean there are some weird legal loops and hurdles hidden out there for anything that dances too close to some of Gene's prior development work and ideas. Hollywood can be a strange and cuthroat place where the most obscure people will attempt to leverage a piece of something. (This might also be why they have Rod Rodenberry in the picture.)
I suspect that if they do do a classic TV Universe show, they will extend it a few decades out past DS9/Voyager. Just enough to give it some isolation and change the political landscape. But not so much that they can't use the old timers on the show for fan service without having to resort to time travel every time they do it. It will also be interesting to see if the production team realizes of makes use of the new medium of streaming in any bold way. This doesn't have to be a traditional single ship show with a fixed cast. With streaming, where they are bulk uploading and targeting binge watching, they aren't on the same weekly grind as a network or broadcast show. The economies of scale shift wildly. They can just as easily be doing a ST anthology show, where our Point of View changes fro week to week following different crews and stories. Bringing in more actors for just a few days here and there in order to create a cohesive whole.
True, although based on Fuller's recent work I think he would tend to agree. Certainly shows like Dead Like Me kept things very grounded despite the sci-fi premise. I don't think we will see a Star Wars like space fantasy, I think we'll be much closer in tone to The Undiscovered Country although I hope a bit lighter!
Fuller is the exact guy you don't want on your show if you're trying to make some cookie cutter generic space fantasy.
His shows take worn, tired, cliché ideas and stories (kind of defines Primeverse Trek the last fifteen or so years, doesn't it?), and turns them around to make something fresh, compelling and clever. Who knew a serial killer show could have been the best show on TV last year?
His shows take worn, tired, cliché ideas and stories (kind of defines Primeverse Trek the last fifteen or so years, doesn't it?), and turns them around to make something fresh, compelling and clever. Who knew a serial killer show could have been the best show on TV last year?
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I'm optimistically hopeful with Fuller. Yeah I know most of his Trek experience comes from Voyager. Which was largely the definition of "inside the box" Trek. I do have to note that very many of Fuller's credited episodes are ones that did their best within those confines to step outside of the traditional box and have a little fun. The Bride of Chaotica jumps immediately to mind. It's a batsh@t crazy story and episode. But it is also wildly fun. Something that Voyager needed more of.
I'm not even looking at Fuller's past Trek episodes, that was when his career was only starting up and he was heavily restricted as a junior writer working under Rick Berman and Brannon Braga.
I don't think it's fair to judge him on his Voyager work. He even said himself that most of what they did on that show was rehashing.
His own shows are what matter to me.
Oh I agree. But I do find it hopeful that even in the more restrictive environment as a junior, he still managed to stretch the boundaries a bit and step outside the box, within the Trek framework. That kind of remindsme of Ron Moore's trajectory. When you go back and look at the early episodes he was credited with, they often stand out from the pack. Then he got out from over most oversight with DS9 and really flipped the show around and made it something special. Then he completely escaped oversight and gave us BSG. I think Fuller is made in that mold. Or at least I hope so.
I think Bryan Fuller is a fine choice. Not only because he has prior Trek experience (Bride of Chaotic was one of the few Voyager episodes I actually enjoyed), but because he could create an imaginative show like Wonderfalls.
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Spiner accidentally or mistakenly says JJ Abrams is co-producing the new series?
http://collider.com/jeff-goldblum-brent-spiner-independence-day-resurgence-star-trek-interview/
http://collider.com/jeff-goldblum-brent-spiner-independence-day-resurgence-star-trek-interview/
Did someone here create the (USS) Churchill?
It's at the top of this story. Interesting how they just grab a random image for these things.
It's at the top of this story. Interesting how they just grab a random image for these things.
New Roth interview http://1701news.com/node/1169/new-tv-trek-be-smart-show.html
That could either mean writing that respects the viewer's intelligence and shows us some more interesting stories than we've seen before, or it could mean lots of technobabble and junk science.
Hopefully the former.
I hope this new series doesn't succumb to the 10-second intro craze that has taken over lots of modern TV.
Give us that glorious classic Trek/Game of Thrones/True Detective 1-2 minute intro.
This stuff is important, dammit!
Give us that glorious classic Trek/Game of Thrones/True Detective 1-2 minute intro.
This stuff is important, dammit!
The benefit of being on a streaming service is it's not constrained by the 1 hour time slot. The show can add a 1-2 minute intro and make each episode longer without cutting into dramatic time or commercial time. Of course, there will probably be a shortened version for eventual syndication sales and international sales if it ends up on TV rather than streaming.
If Trek can come up with an intro as watchable as Game of Thrones, I'll be very impressed.
I don't really need a long intro, they are fine for one or two episodes then we fast forward through them, especially in binge viewing. I daresay most people are the same. 10 seconds is short, but 30 seconds, I'm down with that.
Star Trek has a good history with intros, the last one for Enterprise was the best, and it won an industry award as well.
RAMA
Star Trek has a good history with intros, the last one for Enterprise was the best, and it won an industry award as well.
RAMA