Really? I'm sure they are dressed in Starfleet uniforms, Urban!
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How would the look of TOS have adapted to the 1970s?
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Well, just looked it up and someone else is talking about the uniforms they were wearing in one scene being just too much like Starfleet to be believed!
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What, you think I just make this stuff up? I saw it in its original run! ABC Movie of the Week!
No of course I didn't think that and if you've read my second message you'd have seen that I read what a poster on the IMDB said about it as well! It was my mistake but others were fooled too! I think I saw it on YouTube with the heading about Phase II I'm sure though!
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This isn't an easy question to answer.
If the show had continued I don't think we would have seen any dramatic changes in the overall look of the show. That would have simply been money wasted.
In terms of hairstyles I think we already have an idea right in third season TOS. The cast was wearing their hair just a tad longer and fuller, but not drastically so. Not everyone in that time (in the real world) was instantly wearing long hair. And the show was not meant to reflect then contemporary fashions (beyond the miniskirt) as it was trying to depict a fictional future setting.
Flash forward to TMP and we can see that Shatner and Nichols are sporting the most drastic changes in hairstyles, and yet they still fit neatly into the overall Starfleet look.
Now if Phase II had actually happened we have glimpses in some of the sets and models built before TMP. And the hairstyles would probably have been like those seen on TMP.
Finally if TOS had been conceived in the 1970s then it becomes much more speculative. There's not just the influence of Forbidden Planet and other SF of the 1950s and early '60s, but also the SF of the late '60s and early '70s including 2001: A Space Odyssey and Planet Of The Apes that could have played an influence.
If the show had continued I don't think we would have seen any dramatic changes in the overall look of the show. That would have simply been money wasted.
In terms of hairstyles I think we already have an idea right in third season TOS. The cast was wearing their hair just a tad longer and fuller, but not drastically so. Not everyone in that time (in the real world) was instantly wearing long hair. And the show was not meant to reflect then contemporary fashions (beyond the miniskirt) as it was trying to depict a fictional future setting.
Flash forward to TMP and we can see that Shatner and Nichols are sporting the most drastic changes in hairstyles, and yet they still fit neatly into the overall Starfleet look.
Now if Phase II had actually happened we have glimpses in some of the sets and models built before TMP. And the hairstyles would probably have been like those seen on TMP.
Finally if TOS had been conceived in the 1970s then it becomes much more speculative. There's not just the influence of Forbidden Planet and other SF of the 1950s and early '60s, but also the SF of the late '60s and early '70s including 2001: A Space Odyssey and Planet Of The Apes that could have played an influence.
Finally if TOS had been conceived in the 1970s then it becomes much more speculative. There's not just the influence of Forbidden Planet and other SF of the 1950s and early '60s, but also the SF of the late '60s and early '70s including 2001: A Space Odyssey and Planet Of The Apes that could have played an influence.
For a space exploration show conceived in the early 70s, see Space: 1999:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/53/S99Cast.jpg/220px-S99Cast.jpg
For a space exploration show conceived in the early 70s, see Space: 1999:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/53/S99Cast.jpg/220px-S99Cast.jpg
Despite whatever issues I have with Space: 1999 it did have some decent things in it. Yet it was a conceptual extension of U.F.O. and in some respects influenced by TOS. I recall writeups back in those days touting the show as out to eclipse Star Trek.
One thing to remember, too, is that a lot of SF of that period looked more near future rather than far future.
One thing to remember, too, is that a lot of SF of that period looked more near future rather than far future.
What, you think I just make this stuff up? I saw it in its original run! ABC Movie of the Week!
Still, Andy Griffith and Marjoe Gortner in a Star Trek episode would have been great!
Definitely. For anyone interested, there are a lot of good examples of this on the "Space 1970" blog: http://space1970.blogspot.com/
'70s sci-fi was certainly a product of its time.
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In addition to 2001 and Planet of the Apes, stuff like Easy Rider ('69) and Dirty Harry ('71) were making anti heroes popular as they grew out of westerns and into the mainstream.
I think we would have gotten some really good villains.
I think we would have gotten some really good villains.
Like I said. Like this: http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/how-...ve-adapted-to-the-1970s.279782/#post-11513557You think so... okay, no point in wasting my time here.
Thanks!
We know exactly what it would have looked like.
Sadly Mike Minor had a bad habit of embellishing other people's designs in his illustrations... often with stylistic elements that where neither intended nor carried over to the final execution.
But like I said, no point wasting my time when accurate information is neither wanted nor desired in this thread.
What I found interesting when watching Mission: Impossible all the way through last year was that there wasn't a gradual shift from the 60's to the 70's style, the new decade suddenly hit the show like a brick wall with very little transition in its fourth season (or the one after Trek finished), to the point that it almost feels like a drastically different show stylistically. One that can only be called "Funky". Considering they were stablemates I'd have expected a tonal shift for Trek as well, at the very least musically.
One thing to note is that, whilst proper 70's haircuts might not have met real life military regulations it's fair to say that soldiers almost never had the right haircuts in 1970's film and TV because of actors being unwilling to trim. The New Avengers episode Dirtier by the Dozen has many fine examples, as does any Doctor Who UNIT story not directed by Douglas Camfield.
One thing to note is that, whilst proper 70's haircuts might not have met real life military regulations it's fair to say that soldiers almost never had the right haircuts in 1970's film and TV because of actors being unwilling to trim. The New Avengers episode Dirtier by the Dozen has many fine examples, as does any Doctor Who UNIT story not directed by Douglas Camfield.
No idea, but someone did rerecord the theme in the mid-seventies for a spoken-word record album featuring Roddenberry.
Pretty cool. But they felt like the TNG credits.
I think it is the long list of actors in the blue typeset.
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