Agreed. This was an exceedingly dull exit for them. Not even the farewell bar scene carried the emotional weight of a team losing 2 of it's own due to being disavowed. Worst of all, what if Most Wanted doesn't get picked up? The show loses 2 members of the ensemble for nothing. Oh sure, they can still be contracted out off books by Coulson, but still, it's a loss for the unit.
Agents of SHIELD: Season 3 - Discussion (SPOILERS LIKELY)
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I dunno... The cast is pretty large as it is, and they're adding more characters as the Secret Warriors team gets assembled. Dropping those two might make room for new additions.
And their disavowal shows that there are consequences to SHIELD's off-the-books status, that it's a real factor limiting their ability to act openly or cooperate with foreign governments, rather than just a matter of lip service.
As someone who really doesn't like Mockingbird, this was probably one of the biggest wastes of time in the show for me. I mean, the Jemma on the planet episode was more boring, but at least I cared about Jemma and what happened to her. The story with the prime minister didn't really interest me, either. I'll miss Hunter, but I'm glad to see Mockingbird go.
Wow, this was a bad episode. One of the worst this series has ever produced, in fact. I was so bored I considered just turning it off.
Also, Bobbi and Hunter are implying that they are under surveillance in the final bar scene, yes? In which case, they've just blown the identities of every single one of SHIELD's active field agents. Because I don't care how incompetent their tail is, even a random bar patron looking up at the right time would have made a connection to at least one member of the team, and then they all get up and leave AT THE SAME TIME.
So much for protecting SHIELD.
Bah. I don't even want to think about this episode any more. So very stupid!
Also, Bobbi and Hunter are implying that they are under surveillance in the final bar scene, yes? In which case, they've just blown the identities of every single one of SHIELD's active field agents. Because I don't care how incompetent their tail is, even a random bar patron looking up at the right time would have made a connection to at least one member of the team, and then they all get up and leave AT THE SAME TIME.
So much for protecting SHIELD.
Bah. I don't even want to think about this episode any more. So very stupid!
I like Bobbie, and I'm sorry to see her go, but I have to agree, there is just to many characters, they hardly get anything to do, say or feel. And it was a kinda weak episode, and yes the end was a little silly, but I did not expect them to leave this soon. We don't have a release date for Most Wanted do we?
You're all heartless crazy people. That goodbye scene was surprisingly affecting, given how average the rest of the episode was. Logic be damned!
It actually leads to a more general question: could terrigen transform an almost-but-not-completely dead body? Does it need an active nervous system to work or would it create a super-powered sack of brainless meat?
Hmm...We may have just stumbled onto a possibly explanation for how Hive came to be in the first place...
Good question. Another is would the host body need to be *dead* dead or just regular dead? IIRC it takes about a day for all cellular activity in a body to cease, starting with the neurons and I think ending with the bone cells. Ward was dead for only minutes if not seconds before his body was hive-jacked, so the latter appears to be the case.
It actually leads to a more general question: could terrigen transform an almost-but-not-completely dead body? Does it need an active nervous system to work or would it create a super-powered sack of brainless meat?
Hmm...We may have just stumbled onto a possibly explanation for how Hive came to be in the first place...
It hasn't even been picked up as a series yet, so no. But the pilot has been shot and will be submitted to the network soon. So if it is picked up, presumably it'd premiere next season, either in the fall or in midseason.
Don't get me wrong, I liked the emotional part of it as well, but the execution of it felt weird after the how the whole episode was about not compromising SHIELD.
I'm actually glad they exited the show like this. My main concern for the spin-off was that it'd be too similar to AoS, but with them forced to leave SHIELD behind it signals that they're going to do something different. Probably enter the world of ex-spies, soldiers of fortune and terrorists.
I'm just now wondering if this is where Marvel will finally unleash the *real* Ten Rings/Mandarin hinted at in the Ben Kingsley One-Shot. I mean they've already got HYDRA covered on AoS, AIM doesn't look to be re-emerging anytime soon, Agent Carter already touched on Leviathan and the Red Room, The Hand are busy being Daredevil's antagonists what other shadowy para-military organisations are left for Marvel to pull out of the toybox?
I'm just now wondering if this is where Marvel will finally unleash the *real* Ten Rings/Mandarin hinted at in the Ben Kingsley One-Shot. I mean they've already got HYDRA covered on AoS, AIM doesn't look to be re-emerging anytime soon, Agent Carter already touched on Leviathan and the Red Room, The Hand are busy being Daredevil's antagonists what other shadowy para-military organisations are left for Marvel to pull out of the toybox?
Yeah, I really liked that scene. It was pretty emotional. I also liked how Bobbi and Hunter spotted Simmons and Fitz first, presumably since they had the weakest spy skills.
I will agree that it seemed a bit too public, but the remaining Shield agents made no contact with the two, and their watcher was clearly not James Bond-level material.
We've already got Bobbi and Hunter off of AOS, but we don't even have a show for them to go to yet, as there has been no confirmation that Marvel's Most Wanted has been picked up.
Honestly, some sort of news about Marvel's Most Wanted should probably be coming out sometime this week. (Just based on the airing of this episode.) So maybe stay tuned.
On the other hand, AOS Season 3 may not be done with those two just yet. As stated, Coulson could always drag them into some off-the-books type of missions, maybe some real dark stuff, and that could be the catalyst for what switches them over from just being "watched" to actually being "wanted". (Maybe Hunter will finally get a chance to take a shot at Malick.)
I see what you did.
I like to think that half the reason they did that was to publicly acknowledge them in-front of all the other agency's watching, without officially doing so.
The point of that whole situation wasn't that SHIELD didn't want it known that those to were working for them (indeed, they were fully prepared to extract them by force with PotUS in the damn building!)
It was a matter of appearances, which really, is what about 90% of politics and espionage really comes down to. The Russians and Interpol already knew full well they were SHIELD (or HYDRA) agents, as the interrogation demonstrated, they just couldn't prove it. And with the US officially disavowing their actions, they couldn't do anything but put a tail on them and watch what they did. And what they did was get a bunch of free drinks from various people who have no official identities (remember, Daisy scrubbed them all at the end of season 1 after the fall of SHIELD.)
And if it really bothers people, let's all just pretend that Fitz zapped that one guy with Howard Stark's old short-term memory tazer on his way out the door.
Wow. I feel the total opposite. I'm gonna miss Mockingbird. I could give two shits about Hunter...
Count me in as one who found the goodbye quite emotional. I hate to see Bobbie and Hunter go but at least they'll be back and I'm starting to think, given the great chemistry they have together, that (along with good material of course) they might have a shot at making their own show work.
It depends on the rest of the cast for me. Though I liked their chemistry with the group, Hunter and Bobby aren't selling it alone for me. @Reverend kinda sold it to me with his premise. Hopefully it will be more Bourne to Agents of SHEILD's Bond/Mission Impossible. Disavowed heroes on the run from Russian Intelligence in the MCU. The more I think of it, the less bad it sounds.
In the interview I linked to above, Jeffrey Bell says the show will focus more on Hunter's mercenary side of things than Bobbi's intelligence side of things. So maybe less a spy show and more A-Team sort of stuff? (I dunno, I can't think of any other mercenary-centric shows.)
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Well, they were calling Bobbi "Bird" last night. I guess that's the closest we'll ever get to "Mockingbird" on the show.
Maybe she'll need a code-name on MMW.
Maybe she'll need a code-name on MMW.
