That's a nice shot.The teeps' holiday continues...
Babylon 5
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Rebo and Zooty are Penn and Teller? Couldn't they find anyone actually funny for the rolls? Some beautiful shots of B5 with the lights and all. Those visual comm channels just popping on could be quite embarrassing. Not much privacy. The least they could do is point them away from the bed.
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Part of the point of the Reebo & Zooty thing was that something that's hilarious one moment is annoying very shortly. JMS had never intended to actually show R&Z, only have them known by their catchphrases.
And the Comm can be set to Do Not Disturb.
Once again I almost started a post with "I remember reading from..." My first thought was Jane Killick's B5 guide books, but checked it and this is not from those interviews. Anyway IIRC JMS said that Rebo and Zooty was intended to be something that we don't necessarily get. Comedic stars are pretty much a product of their time and they come and go. We should share the Lochley's annoyance. I believe he mentioned Steve Martin and his "Well excuuuuuuse me!" as an example - at the time everyone was saying it and most found it really damn funny.
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Not in that way, no. But Neil Gaiman wrote the episode that featured them.
<Jan sits firmly on hands>
JMS mentioned it in a post and that's quoted on the Lurker's Guide page for this episode.
He also said something along those lines in the B5 script books when talking about R&Z.JMS said:
And may I add...Thank You for actually looking to verify your source? It's so refreshing.
Thanks! Yeah, usually my sources are pretty much Killick's guides, those 16 B5 magazines I own or Lurker's Guide and JMS's posts. 
I've gone through JMS News a few times, a lot of interesting BTS posts that are not featured in Lurker's Guide. Also recently managed to find some nice make up tidbits from TNT's Guide To Babylon that I mentioned a few pages ago, but there's not much more to offer from that one.
Edit: Duh! Forgot B5 Scrolls and those interviews, but yeah. That's about it. I think.
I've gone through JMS News a few times, a lot of interesting BTS posts that are not featured in Lurker's Guide. Also recently managed to find some nice make up tidbits from TNT's Guide To Babylon that I mentioned a few pages ago, but there's not much more to offer from that one.Edit: Duh! Forgot B5 Scrolls and those interviews, but yeah. That's about it. I think.
Yeah, my reaction to Monty Python has always been much like Lochley. I don't get it and the rest of the world gets annoyed when I don't catch their references to it.
Strangely enough, I remember reading that somewhere as well, but can't remember where.
I can sympathise. While I'm definitely a Python fan (mostly just the two good movies & the live show, the series I find very hit and miss) when it comes to the Stooges, I'm a complete Lochley. Totally don't get it. Not even a little. Same goes for Benny Hill (*shudders*) or any of the 'Carry On' films and yet there's a *lot* of people who go nuts for it.Yeah, my reaction to Monty Python has always been much like Lochley. I don't get it and the rest of the world gets annoyed when I don't catch their references to it.
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I've never actually watched Three Stooges, but I've seen bits and pieces and most of it I found kind of meh. Monty Python has a lot of great stuff, like all of Holy Grail, the Lumberjack song, and the Parrot sketch, but there's also a lot of their stuff I just don't get.
Finished Al's episode "The Corps Is Mother, the Corps Is Father". Not bad. It was nice to see Koenig featured. He's really very good on this show.
While at IMDB I saw this...
Phoenix Rising
In the year 2776, the now-aged Centauri Emperor Londo Mollari recalls the never-before-revealed events of the cataclysmic Earth/Minbari War, which almost destroyed the human race ... and led to the creation of Babylon 5.
That's not right. What episode are they really talking about?
While at IMDB I saw this...
Phoenix Rising
In the year 2776, the now-aged Centauri Emperor Londo Mollari recalls the never-before-revealed events of the cataclysmic Earth/Minbari War, which almost destroyed the human race ... and led to the creation of Babylon 5.
That's not right. What episode are they really talking about?
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Why not? Bester always struck me as someone who could easily kill, whenever it suited him.
I mean, he was a Psi Cop, after all. I'm sure killing people (particularly non-telepaths) comes easy for people like that.
I never saw him that way, as a flat out villain. I saw him as a guy who would do whatever necessary to do his job, even killing. But I never thought of him as someone who would commit mass murder for no real reason. I think it takes away from the character. Makes him less complicated, and more 2 dimensional.
People like Bester can always find a reason to kill. No matter how much it takes.
It's the Psi Corps, after all. Killing comes easy to them. They're the kind who see morals or compassion of any kind as a sign of weakness. Absolutely cold-blooded and ruthless.
And of course they can forget about actually being prosecuted for murder, I'm sure they basically own the government anyway. So they can do pretty much whatever they want.
It's the Psi Corps, after all. Killing comes easy to them. They're the kind who see morals or compassion of any kind as a sign of weakness. Absolutely cold-blooded and ruthless.
And of course they can forget about actually being prosecuted for murder, I'm sure they basically own the government anyway. So they can do pretty much whatever they want.
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Killing most certainly doesn't come easy to PsiCops. At least not to all of them: Byron for example.
Bester is a *very* complicated character, which you can only fully appreciate if you've read the Psi Corps novels. He's not a typical PsiCop, quite the opposite.
Remember that PsiCops just like other telepaths are still human beings. The bonds that the corps forges are strong but it doesn't turn them into stone cold murder machines. Most truly believe they're doing good and indeed, most are in their way.
Bester is a *very* complicated character, which you can only fully appreciate if you've read the Psi Corps novels. He's not a typical PsiCop, quite the opposite.
Remember that PsiCops just like other telepaths are still human beings. The bonds that the corps forges are strong but it doesn't turn them into stone cold murder machines. Most truly believe they're doing good and indeed, most are in their way.
Psicorp is a power to itself as we learned way back. Humanity doesn't trust telepaths and still doesn't. Honestly, who'd really react as well as Trek folk do with Betazeds casually dropping into their minds? B5 is a lot closer to how humanity would likely react. In turn, Psicorp has bred an attitude of us vs the world 'Corp is mother Corp is father' and it works because of the prejudices they face from ordinary humans. Bester and Byron believe telepaths are superior humans and evolution will out and see non-telepaths extinct. They're proponents of straight up biological racism created out of the fear folks have of telepaths. Bester simply sees mass murder as an unfortunate necessity. He's not the first to have come to such a conclusion.
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