I don't think a visual inspection of him sitting on a park bench some way away is enough to detect metahumanism
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I don't think a visual inspection of him sitting on a park bench some way away is enough to detect metahumanism
Holy crap. Three excellent episodes in a row! I didn't expect this episode to be great, but Killer Shark was tons of fun AND it was an Arrow crossover AND we found out who Zoom is, confirming my theory! Awesome!
The Forcecast podcast about Flash also posited that there are identical twins of Jay Garrick on both Earths, resulting in a total of four characters played by that actor. 1 is Zoom, 1 is Jay from Earth 2 who's been helping us, 1 is the Hooded Man... the fourth could be the innocent Hunter Zoloman from Earth 1.
The Forcecast podcast about Flash also posited that there are identical twins of Jay Garrick on both Earths, resulting in a total of four characters played by that actor. 1 is Zoom, 1 is Jay from Earth 2 who's been helping us, 1 is the Hooded Man... the fourth could be the innocent Hunter Zoloman from Earth 1.
It seems a bit weird to say that Zoom was from Earth 1 but accidentally wound up in Earth 2 and became a villain before the portals to earth 2 were ever opened. My guess is that Zoom pretty much has to be from Earth 2, and that Earth 2 also had to have a real Jay Garrick (because we know that Zoom did fight the Flash there) - presumably the real Jay Garrick is the man in the mask.
What their relationship is to each other is trickier. The obvious answer is they were twins (who may or may not have had any history together). This would mean that Zoom is E2 Hunter Zolomon, and that the story about Jay Garrick not having a doppelganger was actually a manipulation - E1 Hunter Zolomon was the doppelganger of e2 hunter Zolomon, and the Jay Garrick doppelganger was either never born or actually did wind up with a different name just as we were told, only that name wasn't Hunter Zolomon.
On the other hand, Zoom could be a clone or some weird science offshoot of Jay Garrick and the HZ backstory was actually true.
In any case, the interview comments would seem to indicate that 'Jay Garrick' in team flash is actually an infiltrator and since we know that Zoom and 'Jay' are clearly not the same person (or are perhaps two people pretending to be the same person), that means that Zoom must have a clone/weird science offshoot of his own or he is working together with his (or Garrick's) earth 1 doppelganger.
Perhaps he's promised the doppelganger speed in exchange for help? That would explain all those tests about 'getting Jay's speed back'. (If the doppelganger is a clone of some kind, that would also tie in nicely to the idea that Jay was 'dying') That could actually be what the entire infiltration is about in the first place: perhaps Zoom did steal the Flash's speed, but doesn't understand how he did it and is using team flash to help figure out the science so he can do it again.
I'm guessing...
Zoom = Earth 2 twin
Jay = Earth 2 twin
Hunter = Earth 1 twin
Hooded Man = Earth 1 twin earlier abducted by Zoom (or that is Hunter and we haven't seen the 4th one yet)
Although I still prefer my original theory that Jay IS Zoom and has been playing them for fools the entire time. That Zoom can jump between worlds at will and was manipulating Caitlin to develop a drug to boost his powers even further.
Zoom = Earth 2 twin
Jay = Earth 2 twin
Hunter = Earth 1 twin
Hooded Man = Earth 1 twin earlier abducted by Zoom (or that is Hunter and we haven't seen the 4th one yet)
Although I still prefer my original theory that Jay IS Zoom and has been playing them for fools the entire time. That Zoom can jump between worlds at will and was manipulating Caitlin to develop a drug to boost his powers even further.
Earth 2 Thawne. 
Earth 2 Thawne.
Well, comic Thawne was so obsessed with the Flash he had himself cosmetically altered to look like him... and Jay is Earth-2 Flash... but Zoom doesn't seem like he's obsessed with anything except speed and is openly disdainful of heroes.
Actually, I wonder if his "Why would I want to be a hero? Heroes DIE!" response to Barry in "Enter Zoom" hints at him being a dark future version of Jay who lost a Kid Flash?
Thawne 2 defeats future Jay 2 in the future and sucks his face off until Eobard 2 looks just like Jay 2, and then travels back into the past to get more speed from the Flash 2 (circa 2012) before he'd facesuck killed him in the 22nd century.
so why we do we have to wait several more weeks to find out what's next???
And Blue Lightning.
I wonder if that will ever be explained. Is there a significance to the color of the Flash lightning, like why Barry's is Orange is Zoom's is Blue.
^^easier for the audience to tell them apart when they are zoom-ing around?
That's probably the case, but I was wondering if they would ever have an in show explanation for that. It's fine if they don't, but I was just curious.
It would be nice if they did. It would add to the history/lore of the show I guess. Did they ever show Jay's lighting when he ran? I can't seem to recall.
I thought they showed it as Blue in the episode they introduced him. I could be wrong, but if that was the case, it adds a little to the reveal of Zoom this last week.
And magic eye shadow and contacts that disappear when you pull the mask off.
Also, assuming Jay Garrick was the real deal, chances are he's the odd man out as far as his dopplegangers from other worlds are concerned. We know his doppleganger on Earth-1 is named Hunter Zolomon, and we know another one of his dopplegangers has the callsign and assumed personality of another Hunter Zolomon. So assuming that's true of most of the other Earths, Jay Garrick is the one with the quirky background resulting in his name.
Not sure where I was going with that, just wanted to point it out.
