Captain America: Civil War - pre-release discussion, news, rumors, etc
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After watching the film at home I noticed how weird it is that a presumed big confrontation between Iron Man and (upgraded) Ultron is set up but then totally abandoned just because the drill mechanism emerges from the floor. In fact, we don't even get a clear idea of where Iron Man is or what he's doing for the next minute or so, despite the fact that we get in-helmet pov, until he turns up flying around outside. I guess they figured the earlier Iron Man-Ultron battle at the African coast was good enough. But this is just one of various structural issues with the film, such as the Hulk not having enough to do. There's no higher-level beastie for him to take on like the leviathan in the first film, so in the final battle he's just fighting pathetic
Agreed.
Also I didn't like the Hulk being manipulated again through magic to create a frenzy. There's so much more Marvel Studios can do with the character if they didn't continue to stick Hulk as the uncontrollable beast. Hulk will always be Hulk but I would like to see some stints of Banner getting a hang of the monster. I hope this happens in Thor 3.
I hope not. Way too easy. I'm rooting for the Vision as the double agent - not necessarily that he wants to betray Tony, but more that he would prefer to be neutral but Cap suggests to him that someone needs to stick close to Tony and keep him from going too far...
Wait, who is she throwing under a bus?
I suppose it could also be a to reassure the public that he isn't a threat - remember, with Thor and Hulk offworld, Vision is (or at least seems to be) the most powerful being on the planet. He's also not human, less than a year old, and born out of the same AI matrix as Ultron. With Sokovia fresh in everyone's minds, you can bet a lot of people would be terrified of his very existence (unless the Avengers somehow manage to keep his details quiet). As a peace loving guy, he might be at least tempted by the possibility of proving to the world that he's a good guy. But it would have to be very well done, because if Tony's side is anything like what it seems, it really doesn't seem to fit with the Vision's ideals.
I believe that's an assumption based on what's been reported about the next Thor movie.
True, I assumed the offworld part, but even if you don't, he's still clearly missing in action, leaving the Vision the most powerful character around.
From the trailers I'm getting the feeling that the conflict isn't about registration, its about the registration act being used to keep the Avengers out of the world governments sending a hit squad to kill Bucky without so much as a trial.
I wonder if Vision and Scarlet Witch's relationship in the comics will be used at all in this movie.
The two of them being on opposite sides is too good an opportunity to not at least touch upon that.
So did the Red SHirt cologne smell like Death?
So you're saying First Avenger might be 9.5 while Civil War at a 9.9?
That would be nice...and yeah, this movie could break the curse (and I am hoping for it to be). Looking forward to this way more than B v. S
From the line up on both sides, I'd bet that the third act involves Tony's team abandoning him after Rhodey is killed or wounded. He is being set up as the Goliath part of the story it seems.
In other words, they're killing the black guy with the redundant power-set.
Pretty much, I think. But we still don't know if he actually dies based on what we've seen so far. In fact, this could be what actually brings him more in line with his comic book counterpart.
The biggest reason I'm more excited about this then BvS, is because I have more of an emotional 'connection' with the characters. I mean, we've been following the adventures of these people for a few years now. While this Superman has only had one movie, and it's a new Batman, it feels like I don't actually know any of the characters and the impact is less. Does that make sense?
I don't believe Marvel when they say there will be consequences and deaths in the movies. They've been flippant about consequences until now and they've treated death like a joke. I'd be shocked if they killed Rhodey. I like the character and actor a lot, but I think killing Stark's best friend, in a battle against fellow Avengers is way too much.
Keep in mind that Bucky is also the person who killed Howard and Maria Stark, so this could really get ugly.
Keep in mind that Bucky is also the person who killed Howard and Maria Stark, so this could really get ugly.
While I agree that their credibility on consequences is still somewhat up in the air (I expect Civil War will settle that debate one way or the other), it's a simple fact that they have already had death in these movies. Also, these actors won't last forever and Marvel still has a huge backlog of other characters waiting in the wings, so it's a pretty safe bet that as the continuity continues to grow, that sort of possibility may become increasingly likely.
Has that been established in the movies?