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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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At least it's not yet another poke at the bear you'd rather doesn't eat you.

It's more like they have stopped poking the bear. After the bear got pissed.

In other words, maybe it would have been better to not have poked the bear in the first place.
 
It's more like they have stopped poking the bear. After the bear got pissed.
Not quite.

The poked the bear.
The bear warned them that poking would provoke a reaction.
The continued to poke the bear.
The bear got pissed and reacted by filing suit.
Then they told everyone else to poke the bear as they continued to poke the bear.

While we don't know how the bear reacted, I don't think it was good.
 
How does anyone know Axanar would be so good that they'd give their money to future projects? That 3 min Vulcan scene was meh dialogue and boring. Why do people love so much something they've not really even seen?

Not only that, but the footage they've never seen is better than the new CBS show which they've never seen, and the movie they haven't seen, and that's why CBS/Paramount are mad.
 
You mean professionals in business in the middle of a lawsuit aren't using social media and blogsites to push their side of their agenda?

They must not be trained as lawyers.
Yeah. I must've missed where CBS (owned by JJ Abrams) Tweeted "Ha ha! We sued Axanar because we are jealous #poesurs"
 
I'm with you that this is the pivot that they make should they come out of this slightly maimed.

There's a good chance that they're maneuvering for a Star Wolf conversion. That may have always been the back-up plan.

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I think, however, there's a good chance they're waiting for their fans to come to that conclusion independently. (In addition to waiting for the outcome of the lawsuit.)

The reason why an independent suggestion on the part of the fans would be ideal for Axanar Productions is that people tend to be enamored with their own ideas. If the fans start discussing a Star Wolf conversion, having come up with the idea themselves, then they will be happier with that outcome (i.e. less likely to demand a refund or sue) than if someone from Axanar Productions just said, "We're doing a Star Wolf conversion. Deal with it."

In any case I don't know that they're going to have the resources to pull off any sort of feature film production after all is said and done. I also don't think they'll be able to crowdfund a Star Wolf film at the level they were able to fund Axanar. Even if they're able to keep a chunk of their supporters quiet with a conversion, many more are just going to chalk their donations up as a loss and quietly move on--never again supporting a fundraiser by this team. Others in the sci-fi community will also (hopefully) be wary after watching the implosion of Axanar and, on top of that, Star Wolf just doesn't have broad appeal to draw in the casual donor.
 
There's a good chance that they're maneuvering for a Star Wolf conversion. That may have always been the back-up plan.

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I think, however, there's a good chance they're waiting for their fans to come to that conclusion independently. (In addition to waiting for the outcome of the lawsuit.)

The reason why an independent suggestion on the part of the fans would be ideal for Axanar Productions is that people tend to be enamored with their own ideas. If the fans start discussing a Star Wolf conversion, having come up with the idea themselves, then they will be happier with that outcome (i.e. less likely to demand a refund or sue) than if someone from Axanar Productions just said, "We're doing a Star Wolf conversion. Deal with it."

In any case I don't know that they're going to have the resources to pull off any sort of feature film production after all is said and done. I also don't think they'll be able to crowdfund a Star Wolf film at the level they were able to fund Axanar. Even if they're able to keep a chunk of their supporters quiet with a conversion, many more are just going to chalk their donations up as a loss and quietly move on--never again supporting a fundraiser by this team. Others in the sci-fi community will also (hopefully) be wary after watching the implosion of Axanar and, on top of that, Star Wolf just doesn't have broad appeal to draw in the casual donor.

A reminder:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2137726026/david-gerrolds-the-star-wolf
 
How many people has AP claimed to have written this script with? Is it like 4 or 5?

Clearly you haven't graduated with an MFA in Screenwriting from an accredited US university. If you had then you'd know that many professional films have lots of writers. Axanar is just trying to meet that standard. :D
 
From the newest Captain's Blog - or as it is called now "The Testimony of Devotion"

Should the worst happen and the money is taken from the fans who supported this project by the studios who have filed suit, I will not count it misspent because I will know that it was not due to the actions of the steward in whom I first placed my trust.

The most appropriate person to deliver that line above is a sweaty fellow in a long white robe yelling his faith into a crappy mike while an equally sweaty group of folks behind him hum and sing and shout AMEN! at appropriate points during his Testimony.
 
Hmm. I wonder what could have gone wrong.

Think it might have been the "listen up, bad guys?" by any chance? :D
Maybe because he said he wrote it because he wanted to read something like it but NOBODY WAS WRITING that kind of thing.

Um... okay. Massive ego so no wonder he and AP hooked up.
 
There's a good chance that they're maneuvering for a Star Wolf conversion. That may have always been the back-up plan.

They seem to be saying this, agree. But the chances that a Trek fan would go to a Trek convention, and be happy to see another, knockoff franchise as the content of the convention are, ... what? And AP above all would know this. It all depends on grafting his privately owned branch onto the Trek tree, asap.
 
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They seem to be saying this, agree. But the chances that a Trek fan would go to a Trek convention, and be happy to see another, knockoff franchise as the content of the convention are, ... what? And AP above all would know this. It all depends on grafting his privately owned branch onto the Trek tree, asap.

I haven't been to a so-called Trek convention of any size in ten years where the main focus of the weekend or schedule was actually Star Trek.
 

Well, two things.

First, these people are a great deal more sophisicated about running crowd-funders and right now they've got a core following of contributors on the social network that numbers in the thousands.

Second, we don't know how much of what they've already collected and built they'll be allowed to keep in any settlement.

We all have opinions, some more informed and some less so, but I remind myself that legally knowledgeable folk didn't think Axanar could get pro bono representation to begin with.
 
From the newest Captain's Blog - or as it is called now "The Testimony of Devotion"



The most appropriate person to deliver that line above is a sweaty fellow in a long white robe yelling his faith into a crappy mike while an equally sweaty group of folks behind him hum and sing and shout AMEN! at appropriate points during his Testimony.
I have wonder if this a reaction to the Axanar crew's lawyers recommending them stop talking up Axanar so much? They can't talk about how great it is, so now they'll just get he fans to do it for them.
 
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