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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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Not only does it NOT need a pro editor, what does the creator do if the editor only requires, say, a $500 fee, but he raises $5,000? Does he pay the editor $5000? Does he pocket the rest? Does he hire an artist to do illustrations? Does he create a print version?

This is why crowdfunding for unlicensed products of any kind is troublesome. If you only need X amount, you can quickly find yourself making profit even if you never intended to.

He sets up a publishing company. :D

On a more serious note, I agree with you. I think we're entering the twilight of crowdfunding being used for fan works. It's too poorly regulated and too much work to oversee for IP holders to continue to permit it. Axanar just pointed a big neon arrow at the problems inherent in the system. (There's also the matter of the sheer number of fan projects that use crowdfunding. Trek fans are a very generous group, but I don't think they'll keep opening their wallets forever.)
 
... I think we're entering the twilight of crowdfunding being used for fan works. ...
I think that is exactly what we're seeing. I suspect someone will write to their governmental representative and start pushing for some oversight in this area, which is much like the Wild West right now.
 
Terry was wondering what has been done with the $574,000 raised in the latest Indiegogo fundraiser, which I was curious about as well. Digging through their TOS, they say they release funds 15 days after the campaign ends which for Axanar was August 10, 2015, so they would have received funds raised by August 10th on August 25th (I don't know how much they initially raised - anyone?). Thereafter they release funds as a batch once a week.
So Axanar would have received nearly all the funds it raised minus maybe the last week or partial week. I do recall they raised $8,000 - $10,000 right after the lawsuit hit, and before they were shut down, so we can assume they received approximately $564,000, less around 8% in fees - roughly $519,000 as of January 2016.
https://support.indiegogo.com/hc/en-us/articles/204484508
Alec promised to release the next financial report Q1 2016 so is remains to be seen if that will happen.
 
We covered it; here's the YouTube video. Coverage starts about 24 minutes in (delays are due to my own technical issues).
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Thank you all again for your kind support.

This is the first time that I've ever listened to your show and I pretty much share the same feelings you guys do. I never appreciated being labelled a 'hater' just because I had questions. Glad I'm not the only one.
 
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Golly, thank you. And thanks to Charles Foster Kane (did you say it in Orson Welles's voice? Or at least Maurice LaMarche's? 'Cause I just did. Stop looking at me funny). :)

Seriously, we appreciate it.
 
There is actually tons of unlicensed fan fic up for sale on Amazon now. I've stumbled across a whole bunch of them looking at the official stuff.

It probably has to do with how many people sincerely don't understand copyright law. They just don't know it's wrong. I have to constantly remind students about what plagiarism is and that it's very serious.

Not only does it NOT need a pro editor, what does the creator do if the editor only requires, say, a $500 fee, but he raises $5,000? Does he pay the editor $5000? Does he pocket the rest? Does he hire an artist to do illustrations? Does he create a print version?

This is why crowdfunding for unlicensed products of any kind is troublesome. If you only need X amount, you can quickly find yourself making profit even if you never intended to.

I think it should become a matter of policy on all crowdfunding sites to stop allowing donations to a cause once its goal has been met. If that cause should need more money, then let it start another funding plea that explains why it needs more. Of course, that the crowdfunding sites make money off a percentage of the donations creates a conflict of interest that I would think makes this unlikely. Maybe there should be a flat fee for their services.
 
I think it should become a matter of policy on all crowdfunding sites to stop allowing donations to a cause once its goal has been met. If that cause should need more money, then let it start another funding plea that explains why it needs more. Of course, that the crowdfunding sites make money off a percentage of the donations creates a conflict of interest that I would think makes this unlikely. Maybe there should be a flat fee for their services.

The percentage is probably more lucrative for them, and it attracts people to their platforms since there's little risk in setting up a campaign (if it fails, the people running the campaign lose close to nothing).
 
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