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[IndyMac]

The long, slow buildup to the shootout with the elevator music playing in the background was just awesome. Miller and Holden finally together, and then.....gut punch.

I love the attention to detail on this show. From the mormon Angel Moroni as a hood ornament on the Nauvoo, to the shot of Eros when Miller's ship arrives and it actually looks like the real asteroid Eros with it's potato shape.

 

[The Wormhole]

Swapped a few tweets with one of the writers today about how jam packed the next two episodes must be given what has yet to happen from the books - and he said that they've never said that it will be one book per season. But I'm struggling to see where an earlier breaking point for a season break would be ...

Spoiler: Book Spoiler

Unless they pull the events on Thoth Station into the second season - and just have the loss of Eros and the Nauvoo in the first season, taking place without the knowledge gained on Thoth.

I've been thinking something similar, ever since it became obvious that Miller wouldn't meet up with Holden and his crew until very late in the season (it happens around the half-way point in the first book). Yeah, I agree certain plot elements from the first book are very likely to hold over until the second season.

 

[B.J.]

Okay, something that's been bugging me is why doesn't the crew of the Rocinante broadcast that they're alive, and they're alive due to the actions of the Donnager? Tensions are very high between Mars, Earth, and the Belt, and it would seem that getting that info out there would relieve some of that. I know that right now, Earth considers them a threat and a target due to their interactions with Johnson, so that ship may have sailed, but things might have been different earlier.

Or did I miss something?

 

[tenmei]

This is addressed in the book BJ -

Spoiler: Re B.J. point / Book Spoilers

Basically ... 1) First Holden broadcasts that the Martians scuttled the Scopuli and destroyed the Cant, then 2) the data cube evidence suggests that the ships that destroyed the Donny were from Earth, 3) None of the information is proof that either government is implicit and the crew suggest Holden doesn't send it out, he does anyway AFTER the visit to Eros 4) Because Holden has released both sets of information, this ignites hostilities between the core worlds, and the OPA is swept up in that.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

I really want to like this show. I really do. But I find Miller's story just bland, generic detective stuff. I'm more fascinated by Holden's gang, but moreso for the characters around Holden, who also bores me as a character.

There are parts of the show I like, others I don't. I keep watching, however, because Shohreh Aghdashloo is mesmerizing to watch. Her performance as Undersecretary Avasarala is superb.

I picked up the first book and I'm reading it concurrently with the show. I'm intrigued to see how they adapted the novel.

 

[The Wormhole]

I really want to like this show. I really do. But I find Miller's story just bland, generic detective stuff. I'm more fascinated by Holden's gang, but moreso for the characters around Holden, who also bores me as a character.

With me it's kind of the opposite, as far as the show goes Miller is the only one I really give a damn about, and that has more to do with Thomas Jane's performance than the writing. Meanwhile, I find Holden and his crew incredibly bland in the show despite the fact they are much more interesting in the novels.

 

[IndyMac]

Okay, something that's been bugging me is why doesn't the crew of the Rocinante broadcast that they're alive, and they're alive due to the actions of the Donnager?

They discuss it in the episode after the Donnager is destroyed. Basically, it looks really suspicious that they survived both the Canterbury and the Donnager, whose gonna believe they aren't responsible? Also, they really like the Martian corvette that they, um "salvaged".

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

With me it's kind of the opposite, as far as the show goes Miller is the only one I really give a damn about, and that has more to do with Thomas Jane's performance than the writing. Meanwhile, I find Holden and his crew incredibly bland in the show despite the fact they are much more interesting in the novels.

I agree that Thomas Jane is totally doing the heavy lifting in that part. The rest of it just seems so paint-by-the-numbers. One thing that I do like is the detail on Jane's device — the cracked screen is a nice touch.

I must say that I'm enjoying the novel much more than SyFy's adaptation.

 

[tenmei]

I'm curious why they chose to swap the exploration of the Anubis and the events on Eros around from the way they happen in the book.

 

[The Wormhole]

So maybe everyone else already knows this, but I only literally just found out (as in posting this is literally the next thing I did after learning this) that this coming Tuesday, February 2 both episodes 9 and 10 are airing. So we're getting the two remaining episodes of the season on one night in a special two hour season finale. Odd.

 

[Crazy Eddie]

Swapped a few tweets with one of the writers today about how jam packed the next two episodes must be given what has yet to happen from the books - and he said that they've never said that it will be one book per season. But I'm struggling to see where an earlier breaking point for a season break would be ...

Spoiler: Book Spoiler

Unless they pull the events on Thoth Station into the second season - and just have the loss of Eros and the Nauvoo in the first season, taking place without the knowledge gained on Thoth.

They ARE taking a lot of creative license with the timing of things, given Avasarala's early debut (and also conspicuous lack of profanity).

On the other hand...

Spoiler: Season 2

You're forgetting that the protomolecule has to spend a lot of time "cooking" with all the biomass at Eros. Taking Thoth Station comes WAY after that, and is what results in the Eros Feed, which allows the entire solar system to watch the Protomolecule slowly eat every living thing on Eros. The way things are going, they're probably going to spend half of the second season watching the horror show that is the Eros Feed -- and watching Earth get into the fray and start dropping rocks on Mars' domes -- before the Nauvoo intercept even becomes a possibility.

All of which means the first season will most likely cut off right as Holden and Miller are climbing onto the Rocinante with massive radiation poisoning.

 

[tenmei]

Spoiler: Season 2 (Book Spoilers)

Which would leave nowhere near enough material for them to spread out over two episodes. I'd imagine the break at the end of episode 9 might be the point you've mentioned above - and perhaps the assault on Thoth Station being the finale, because of the dramatic reveal of what the proto-molecule is and essentially saying 'This is what happened in the first few episodes'. I could see the build up to the Nauvoo and the bombing of Mars being interspersed with the incident on Ganymede from the beginning of Book 2 as well.

 

[IndyMac]

So maybe everyone else already knows this, but I only literally just found out (as in posting this is literally the next thing I did after learning this) that this coming Tuesday, February 2 both episodes 9 and 10 are airing. So we're getting the two remaining episodes of the season on one night in a special two hour season finale. Odd.

I know a lot of people like the Netflix style season dump, but for me it's been a long time since I watched a show week-to-week as it aired and I've enjoyed the buildup to each new episode. I'm actually a little disappointed that they crammed the 10 episodes into 8 weeks and didn't spread it out over the full 10.

 

[Chekov's Phaser]

I know a lot of people like the Netflix style season dump, but for me it's been a long time since I watched a show week-to-week as it aired and I've enjoyed the buildup to each new episode. I'm actually a little disappointed that they crammed the 10 episodes into 8 weeks and didn't spread it out over the full 10.

Especially since the wait for season 2 will be so long. It's just another week added that we have to wait for it to return.

 

[JD]

So maybe everyone else already knows this, but I only literally just found out (as in posting this is literally the next thing I did after learning this) that this coming Tuesday, February 2 both episodes 9 and 10 are airing. So we're getting the two remaining episodes of the season on one night in a special two hour season finale. Odd.

I don't really see where it's that odd, these days a lot of shows do two hour season finales.

 

[The Wormhole]

I know a lot of people like the Netflix style season dump, but for me it's been a long time since I watched a show week-to-week as it aired and I've enjoyed the buildup to each new episode. I'm actually a little disappointed that they crammed the 10 episodes into 8 weeks and didn't spread it out over the full 10.

I'm of two minds on the matter. On one hand, as I found with the episodes that were posted online before they aired around Christmas, this show works better with marathon viewing. On the other hand, I agree that condensing 10 episodes into barely a month really reeks of poor planning. Weren't there other, more convenient times of the year to air this?

I don't really see where it's that odd, these days a lot of shows do two hour season finales.

I suppose I should clarify. I didn't find out about this two hour finale until I was looking over the online TV guide for the week and saw it in the listings. I find it odd there was no promotion done about this, at least none I'm aware of. I don't know about SyFy, but Space in Canada had nothing about this, which you thin they would have at least mentioned after last Tuesday's episode "tune in next week for the two hour finale."

 

[JD]

I see what you mean now. I saw a preview for it online that did advertise it as a 2 hour finale.

 

[RAMA]

I'm also enjoying the week-to-week viewing as opposed to binge watching, but it also drives me crazy.

Season finale tonight!!

 

[Marc]

, but Space in Canada had nothing about this, which you thin they would have at least mentioned after last Tuesday's episode "tune in next week for the two hour finale."

I've just checked the program guide and it's still showing one episode for tonight and one for next Tuesday on Space.

 

[The Wormhole]

I've just checked the program guide and it's still showing one episode for tonight and one for next Tuesday on Space.

Well, both Space's website and the TV guide on my local newspaper's website say two hour Expanse tonight. Space doesn't have next week's listings online yet, but the TV guide says Paranormal Witness is on in The Expanse's timeslot next Tuesday. Although, my digital cable is saying just one episode tonight with a one hour finale next Tuesday.

I'm personally inclined to believe there will be a two hour finale tonight, since that's what SyFy is doing and Canadian channels are learning that when you wait too long after something airs in the US no one's going to watch the Canadian airing, having already watched it illegally online.

I wonder, was the two-hour finale decision made in late stages, perhaps explaining the contradictory information?